I am not agree on the point that going to special school is the pampering a disabled child. It is the other way round. Many a times if a disabled child goes to the normal school then teachers are little lenient about them and ignores their mistakes. On the other hand the special schools treats the disabled child as a normal child. In the show it was pointed out that let the disabled child play with other children's, let him also fall, let he also get stitches. But if we take first case that is let the disabled child play with normal children's. How far it is practical, can a blind person play cricket, foot ball or even dumb shears. But in blind schools he can enjoy cricket, Wally ball, playing cards, kabbady and many more. He falls and he gets stitches also.

Now let us come to academics. The special schools gives the conceptual clarity about many things regarding the scientific concepts and geographical processes Through touch models. In the later stages when child goes to normal school he can grab that subject easily . if the teachers of normal schools does not know how to teach the particular subject or how to handle particular situation with disabled student then that student can himself guide the teacher please explain me like this.

Let me give my own example. In last year of BA I took economics as my subject so the HOD of eco dept. was not ready to give that subject, because she was thinking that how will deal graphs. Then I told her about the plastic paper and she was ready to give that subject.

If the special schools are the institution of isolation then what about the girls special schools or boys special schools. Then they should also be considered as isolation institution.

As far as the argument that says that if the disabled child is not admitted to normal schools then the school students looses the opportunity to mix with disabled. This argument looks very Kiddush and bookish too.

I am not saying that the whole education should be taken in the special school, but I am saying that till 7th standard the special schools are necessary. After that the disabled student and the normal students also becomes mature enough to understand each other's problems. And teachers of secondary schools are of comparatively older, so they handle disabled student very well.

In conclusion of this mail I can say that every person needs some special environment to nurture his potentials. If one has to learn cricket then he has to go to cricket special academy, he cannot learn cricket by going to foot ball academy. So where there is a different need then there has to be different institutions.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Zujar Shabbir Kanchwala" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Satyamev jayte: don't we require special schools anymore?


To me, an inclusive school would mean the one that is well equipped
with basic facilities to support disabled students. A school that
admits disabled students without considering his basic needs to learn
cannot be called as an inclusive school. Also, there's no magic stick
invented so far that can convert all regular schools into inclusive
schools in a flash, there's a lot of ground work required. This show
is just a baby step towards sensitising the society about inclusive
education. An inclusive school should be able to fulfill all learning
needs of the disabled and there would not be a need for special
school.

Special schools are one of the methods of  isolating disabled folks
from the mainstream. As someone rightly said on the show - by not
admitting disabled students to the main stream school, not only do
disabled students miss an opportunity to be part of main stream but
the able bodied students also miss an opportunity to interact, play
and learn with their disabled counterparts. Special schools may be
good for pampering the disabled but may not be the right tool to build
up and shape a personality. The process of inclusion has to begin even
before a child starts going to school to make him comfortable about
himself and divise his own tricks to overcome disability and adapt to
the society with courage and confidence, this cannot be done after the
child goes to a special school for several years as his mind
preoccupies itself to limited activities and may also develop a
negative picture of the society. Sending a disabled child to a special
school for primary education is like isolating the child from the
mainstream for inclusion at a later stage.

Subjects like Maths, Science and Geography are tough for not only the
challenged but for most of them. A lot depends on the methodology of
teaching, the students' grasping ability, availability of learning
aids and the overall learning environment. Let me tell you my own
example when I was in the first year of my Commerce graduation.
Commerce folks are aware that Mathematics is an optional subject in
junior college but a compulsory one in the first year of graduation.
The first year of graduation becomes a nightmare for people who opt
for Secretarial Practice (SP) in junior college. The same was the case
with two of my sighted friends in college but not for me as I loved
Mathematics and had done my junior college with Science. Majority of
the topics were known to me and I used to solve the problems before
our coaching class faculty would do it for the class. In fact, there
were situations when she was stuck at points where I had the solution.
These 2 friends asked me if I can help them learn the subject and I
agreed. Everyday, after class we 3 gathered at my home and solved home
assignments and additional problems marked for the next day. Would
this have happened if I were a special school student?

I am never comfortable with challenged people learning Mathematics of
a lower class in the 10th class. If we think of a social inclusion of
challenged then why such discrimination. Also, I see a whole lot of
disabled folks and NGOs advising disabled to remain in comfort zones.
Why can't visually challenged people take up Commerce or Science after
school? All these questions can be answered by sensitising and
educating the society about disability and the fact that education is
as much important for a disabled as much as their able bodied
counterparts. And we need to take concrete steps in this direction
rather than waiting for a magician.

Friends, I have always remained in an inclusive environment and firmly
believe that it has helped me be whatever and wherever I am today. And
let me tell you that I belong to a family with no luxuries - my
parents and grandparents have struggled a lot and have seen days of
nothing more than 2 meals a day. They did not have social contacts or
political influences. The only thing they had is courage, passion and
unshakable moral values. Its not true that only rich can afford
raising disabled children and include them in the mainstream, all who
accept their disabled children wholeheartedly and believe in
themselves and their offspring can do it. And I don't think any
special school extends its facilities to disabled students' at home,
do they? And if an inclusive school provides facilities as special
schools to their student then why would we need special schools? Let's
think of inclusion from day 1 of a disabled child's life and not at a
later stage.

On 6/11/12, Asudani, Rajesh <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Zoher
I can say that yesterday Amir merely scratched the surface about various
issues confronting disability.
Perhaps, it was the best he could do on that platform.
Coming to special schools, I can take amir's and disability sectors'
assertions about sending disabled kids to mainstream schools right from
beginning only with a grain of salt.
As rightly pointed out by you, there are a host of issues to be taken care
of about the education of the disabled, particularly sensorily disabled.
So, it is a good idea to have special schools till priamary level, and then
integrate children with disabilities n mainstream schools by rendering
necessary support and properly training/sensitizing mainstream teachers.

regarding argument that most special schools do not do justice and are
malfunctioning, the same is the state of majority of mainstream schools and government policies are squarely responsible for the mess in which special
schools find themselves in.
So, the argument for doing away with special schools does not seem valid to
me.


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 11:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AI] Satyamev jayte: don't we require special schools any more?

Dear friends,

Yesterday's program has importantly raised the issue of integrated
education. Here it comes to my mind is, now onwards will we not require
special schools for disabled?

My take on this issue is nothing can replace the need for special schools.

Following arguments can support my take.

1. Every disabled child does not comes from the rich family, so he can have all the facility of assistive technology in his house. Because normal
schools cannot provide with all the facilities.

2.       As show also pointed out that some of the parents are not accept
their disabled child. So it is necessary to have the special schools so that Childs parents get proper counseling to accept their child. I don't think so
any normal school can do so.

3. Many of the disabled children's are over protected by their parents or many of them are overlooked by their parents. In both the case the child
becomes introward, if in this situation he is put to sited school then he
will not be able to cope with the situation.

4. A disabled child needs to have some special tools to face the real world, such as communication skills, presenting oneself with confidence even with disability, or handling the subjects like math's science and geography he needs to have a special education. Now just imagine in India schools are
not comfortable for normal students how they are going to accommodate
disabled student?

Here I mean that at list special schools are necessary till 5th or 7th
standard. Then the person is prepared to face the normal schools.

According to me, even giving entire education is in the special environment
is also not viable, as finally one has to live in the integrated society.

To get our right place in the society the first thing is that a disabled
should respect other disabled person.  In yesterdays show there was one
person who was in my school and in college also. When I was talking to him, his mother came to me and told that keep away from my son, if he lives with
disabled peoples then he will develop an inferiority complex.

Members please carry this thread for more discussion, so we can have
enlightenment on this issue.

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