Yes I got my certificate back at that time but he warned me before giving it. I would have further complained to appropriate authority if he had not returned my certificate.
On 12/12/12, bhawani shankar verma <bsvermad...@gmail.com> wrote: > you should not provide him your original certificate. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Umesha Economics" <umesha....@gmail.com> > To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:49 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - > afollow-up > > >> Hi shona, >> did you get the certificate back? you could have complained once again on >> >> the rude nature of the guard. these idiots must be taught a lesson. >> >> Umesha >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Shona Man" <shonam...@gmail.com> >> To: <surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com>; <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Sent: Tuesday, 11 December, 2012 6:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - >> afollow-up >> >> >>> Hi friends before cupple of weeks I was traveling from my place to >>> Delhi with my cousin. My waiting list ticket couldn't be confirmed in >>> AC chair car therefore we decided to board handicapped coach. But when >>> we reached at the end of the train we saw that handicapped coach was >>> full of nondisabled as usual. We tried to seek help from guard in >>> adjacent compartment, he was very busy in his personal business while >>> talking on telephone, after our repeated demand he turned to us and >>> asked the problem, we asked him to vacate the handicapped coach, but >>> he outrightly refused and showed his inability to do so. Then I asked >>> a RPF personal standing nearby, but he also refused to do any thing >>> unless guard gives him note of doing so. I asked the guard that I am >>> going to complain regarding it and your inability. At the same time I >>> did complained with the train number and station where it was standing >>> to number 9717630982. I dont know what happened with in 5 minute, >>> guard called RPF personal and said to him that I am giving note to u >>> and vacate the coach. Then that RPF jawan with in 5 minute vacated the >>> coach using force, surprisingly there was only 1 PH sitting in the >>> coach. >>> Friends now what happened at the next station that guard came to us >>> and asked me my certificate and ticket, I gave him and he took it to >>> his compartment. He did not returned it untill we reached Delhi, when >>> I approached him to take my certificate then he very strongly said to >>> me that it is not our duty to vacate the coach and in future never >>> complain. I said to him that I know it is under your jurisdiction, if >>> it is not why you are caring of the complaint? I said, let me follow >>> my own process if it is not ur duty then why u r worried? >>> I left him with this hot discussion and warned him that I am very well >>> aware of my rights. >>> This complaint number is of Delhi, may be in other circle other number >>> working. >>> >>> On 12/11/12, Surendra Salgaonkar) <surendra.salgaonk...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> In this conection I want to share something: 10111/10112 konkan kanya >>>> express does not have handicap compartment, but the same train becomes >>>> 10103/10104 mandvi express morning train, it has handicap compartment, >>>> why? >>>> Secondly: sometime it comes on back, sometime in front, why? >>>> Thirdly security questions are as it is, nothing is changed. >>>> So railway person please: pay attention... >>>> Thank you & good luck! >>>> Surendra Salgaonkar >>>> Phones. >>>> :+919867645933, >>>> +912226473918 >>>> Emails: >>>> surendra.salgaon...@sbi.co.in >>>> salgaonkarconce...@rediffmail.com >>>> Skype: >>>> salgaonkarconcerns, >>>> salgaonkarskype >>>> -----Original message----- >>>> From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula >>>> Sent: 10.12.2012, 4.50 pm >>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> Subject: [AI] Coach for People with disabilities in Railways - a >>>> follow-up >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> I remember, there was a huge discussion on this earlier. Wondering, if >>>> any >>>> of you know updated information. >>>> >>>> Additionally, wanted to share an incident I have noticed recently. >>>> >>>> Howrah - Chennai Superfast mail has two such coaches one at the front >>>> and >>>> another towards the end of train. When a couple of passengers with >>>> disabilites went to front side coach, it was crowded with all >>>> non-disabled >>>> users and couple of policemen standing there told that it's not their >>>> responsibility to get them vacated and the second coach which is just >>>> before the guards coach gets such support and those two folks had to >>>> walk >>>> all the way to end of the train. Yes, the guard was supervising the >>>> coach >>>> and was not allowing any passenger who does not have a disability. >>>> >>>> I was shocked, when there are two coaches, why they do not offer >>>> necessary >>>> support. Since that was a station where train halts almost 20 minutes, >>>> those folks were able to walk all over the train, but what could have >>>> happened if train halts only for a minute or two or if they are >>>> mobility >>>> impaired? >>>> >>>> Do you all think, taking up this issue with CCPD office would help? >>>> Best, >>>> -Srini >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/VasuTweets >>>> Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://www.learnaccessibility.org >>>> >>>> Let's create an inclusive web! >>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>>> >>>> of >>>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Search for old postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please >>>> visit the list home page at >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>>> >>>> of >>>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Search for old postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please >>>> visit the list home page at >>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> LL.M candidate >>> at Faculty of Law in University of Delhi >>> >>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>> of mobile phones / Tabs on: >>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >> >> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of >> >> mobile phones / Tabs on: >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> > > > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of > mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > -- LL.M candidate at Faculty of Law in University of Delhi Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. 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