and, to set legal records right,
Even though fundamental rights are at present enforced only against art12 
entities, but its ambit has ever been expanding, and the day is not far off 
when NGOs receiving substantial aid from government would fall into the ambit 
of article 12...


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:23 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

Yes, fundamental rights are violated.
You cannot preclude a VI from contesting for the job...
Please do have a crash course in Indian laws, if you would.


-----Original Message-----
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Mohib Anwar Rafel
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 1:48 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher

I cann't understand one point here that is there any violation of any
legal orfundamental right of visually challanged community? Why you
don't challange the appointment of various nondisabled welfare
officers and high officials who are appointed for the public
assistance of the handicapped persons? They are not aware of special
needs and all around development of disabled community. Do you
remember it is first time when a visually challanged person has been
appointed as chief commissioner for persons with disabilities. All the
time they have been appointing such persons who are not even aware of
basic legal provisions and their special treatment! Why are you people
crying so long then?
Therefore this is not matter of discrimination and infringement of
right, but yes I do agree that that the sighted teacher should be well
versed in operation of assistive technology, and I think the
organization will take care of this matter. I am of the view that
these organizations should promote employment opportunities for
disabled community first but if they have serious reservations while
doing so then we should not condemn their decisions, however either of
two should not be done at the cost of optimum learning entourage.

On 5/21/13, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
> So, they should not call the post a computer instructor, rather they should
> call it a callboy/call girl!!!!
>
> If NAB says computer instructor but not for VI, then, NAB has forfeited all
> rights to be a so-called representative organization...
>
> They should take a lesson or two in modern jurisprudence which has concepts
> of reasonable accommodation and non handicapping environment well grounded.
>
> Actually,  NAB has been flaunting slogans like:
> "Do you know blind can drive"
> on their site and misleading the public at large.
>
> NAB India general secretary has publicly proclaimed more than once that
> reservation to disabled/VI is against principles of equality....
> So, the approach is more than clear.
>
> Let us collectively take up cudgels  against such approach and such
> institutions....
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Mohib Anwar Rafel
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 12:20 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher
>
> I think this is not any kind of discrimination against visually
> challanged community. This is the endeavor to give the best so that
> the teacher could handle all odd situations which a visually
> challanged teacher cann't handle, provided that sighted teacher is
> well-grounded in assistive technology. May be that organization is
> looking someone who could do some importent work even outside the
> computer classes which can be done by a sighted person only. So don't
> blaim the organization here and treat it as in the interest of
> students.
>
> On 5/21/13, srikanth bolla <presidentsrika...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>     This is really sad discrimination and news. I think to some extent,
>> we
>> are giving them the chance to underestimate visually challenge people or
>> teachers. As an employer myself who is dedicated to  recruiting  disabled
>> people, feel  that  visually challenged people  will not  take  active
>> step
>> in learning to fulfill  work role.  Most people show their disability and
>> escape from work and give out en number of reasons for coming on time and
>> much more.  I do understand that all visually challenged people are not
>> lazy
>> but most of them though. I compare visually challenged people with other
>> disabilities and found that most visually challenged people are not
>> active
>> and never attempt to learn.  Sorry if this hurts but this is high time
>> that
>> we all should change ourselves and should not expect easy things and
>> work.
>> Work environment is always challenging irrespective of once disability.
>> So
>> employers will be confident once we start to show at most dedication. I
>> understand various reasons being saying visually challenged people should
>> not apply. For example, how can you fix power and hardware connections?
>> How
>> can you work on inaccessible applications while teaching? If the computer
>> crashes and freezes how can you fix. These are few reasons maybe they are
>> thinking. If you can do all these things, then we have to let employers
>> know. my ideas are based on Personal  experience. Regards,
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of vikram babu
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 1:33 PM
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Job for Computer Teacher
>>
>> Hi friends,
>>
>> This line hurts me a lot. "anyone can apply except visually impaired
>> person.
>> "
>> I am really sorry if it is wrong to comment on this issue on this list.
>> But
>> I would like to have the openion of the person who had posted this
>> information. I need fue clarifications like:
>>
>> 1. Why visually challenged teachers are not allowed to apply for this
>> post,
>> when it is ment for teaching computers to the visually challenged
>> students?
>> 2. These days many visually challenged people are trying to do their best
>> to
>> creat awareness, How we can handle things confidently! Then why this
>> discrimination?
>>
>> I have seen many challenged people doing their duties confidently and
>> achieving the goals in short time. But I really feel sad to hear this
>> line.
>> Sorry. It is not my intention to hurt some one. but these are my feelings
>> after getting so much hurt to the words.
>> Thanks for reading.
>> --
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>>                               B. Vikrambabu.
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