We have to catch these people (who fake disability) and get them severely punished.
Only that would deter people from faking disability. Javed Abidi 26.2.2014 Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone -----Original Message----- From: "Kanchan Pamnani" <[email protected]> Sender: "AccessIndia" <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:48:59 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled.<[email protected]> Reply-To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled." <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re:Fake certificates Hi Bhiwani, I just changed your subject line. 1. I have been told many times that on the basis of fake Disability certificates, many get jobs. The information that comes to me is very general and not specific. No one can point out who specifically a. Has a certificate of higher disability b. Has a certificate when he is not disabled 2. I know for sure that this is happening just like you know it but please give me one name and if possible address then someone can take it up. 3. In Mumbai there was a small scam where BEST drivers were found to be low visioned. This was found from an internal inquiry. None of the NGOS complained. It was reported in the press but no one not even the organisations who work for the visuallly impaired lodged their protest or commented about it. I think I posted this on this list. 4. There was another newspaper article which mentioned that in 2 districts in Maharashtra most of the government teachers did not want to get transferred so they used the excuse that they were either partially deaf or partially blind. This is again newspaper reporting. What happened next? 5. I have also read about students claiming to be orthopedically disabled in Gujrat and once caught were disbarred from exams. 6. there is a similar story from Karnataka. 7. One of the access india members from Delhi told me last year that while he was giving bank recruitment exams many at his centre were not disabled but had fake certificates. Did he call the NFB, NAB or AICB I dont know. 8. You are aware that we are fighting this omnibus litigation in Maharashtra in which we have been getting great orders. There is the issue of recruitments that took place in 2006. I can tell you surely that the government is not taking up that issue nor is any of the NGOs or their lawyers bringing it up though I have put it in Suhas Karnik's affidavit. Is it too late? What should we have done then? Is it more or less important than Nileema Surve's appointment and the giving of gadets etc which caught the attention of the court and diverted it from these issues. Now lets discuss how we can deal with these situations. Can we prevent them. Are we going to complain to the authorities. Whose responsibility is it ? Kanchan Pamnani Advocate & Solicitor 9, Suleman Chambers, Battery Street, Colaba, Mumbai - 400 039. ----- Original Message ----- From: "bhawani shankar verma" <[email protected]> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled." <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: Moderator: RE: Kindly answer for thi > please also add my one question. who will stopp those 40% certified blind > people who are on the job under blind category and also having driving > license? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Aravind R" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; "AccessIndia: a list for discussing > accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled." > <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:33 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: Moderator: RE: Kindly answer for thi > > >> ok moderator sir and mr. abidi sir. >> lets discuss in constructive way as everyone wish. >> people who support this bill to be passed in present version please >> explain us the following. >> what will be the benifits just by recognising us as disabled people >> then denying jobs using the loopholes in this law? >> people will simply recognise us as disabled if we use sticks or >> hearing machines or wheel chairs or if we behave differently. >> certificates are for ensuring that nondisabled wont get the benifits >> we get due to disability. >> if this law gives loopholes to exempt us from reservation if any legal >> reason can be invented, then what we will gain by getting nation wide >> certificate and guardian? >> i'm ignorant and couldn't understand these. please explain me in what >> way, this bill is better and why some of you want very urgently to be >> passed? >> a good explanation will make this discussion to be much fruitful and >> healthy as everyone wish. >> >> On 2/25/14, Neelima Surve <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Dear Radha! I can understand your situation. A person who goes from >>> the same only can understand the situation. But, there are some people >>> who doesn't matter from which situation you go or not. If they get >>> comfort, then its ok. Dear, our countless thanks are also insufficient >>> for Avinash & his team. & also Poonam. Who spent their night without >>> sleepless. My dear, Really, just because of you, we can sleep. Am I? >>> >>> Dear Poonam! hardly I can understand your highly decoreted language. >>> Smile! Please! don't take it other wice. I know its my fault, but, I >>> want to tell you, & Avinash! don't worry! you will never get an answer >>> from Moderator. In fact, he will take further step, which we all know >>> what . &, for that, we never ever care. >>> >>> Let me tell you one more thing, guest hai to khatirdaari to karnee hee >>> pade gee naa? Samjho samjho yaar. >>> >>> Now, my question for those, who are again & again saying that people >>> are using abusing language against Abidi, just show me a one sentence. >>> As poonam said, nothing is objectionable on these mails. In fact, this >>> is rediculous, that, he puts remark for Rungtha like (Advocate), then, >>> none has taken objection about him, but, when people talk to him, then >>> many people are raising their voice to say that, don't use abusive >>> language. >>> >>> Yes poonam! ye to sidhi sidhi baat hai my dear, we always call Mr. >>> Abidi, (so called activest), &, therefore, he puts remark for Rungtha, >>> like (Advocate). May I? Mr. Abidi? But, I would like to tell you, that >>> you deserve that much only. I can again & again say we never ever >>> think, that, our future will be safe under your leadership. &, yes! >>> If you all think, that, we should not talk anythink for the guest, Mr. >>> Abidi, then, No abusive, or bius language for Avinash & his other >>> team. Especially for Avinash. At once also, when he raised the point >>> about charges, all had trying to prove wrong him, but, this time we >>> all cannot tollerate it. >>> >>> Mr. Abidi, he says sorry to you, not just to show his artificial >>> politeness, but, it comes from the heart, & somehow, he may realised, >>> that, he should have control his anger. But, you or some other people, >>> never even show this kind of politeness. >>> >>> Sorry! I can't be artificial polite. >>> >>> Dear Kanchan Madam, I am very sorry, my point is not to disapoint you, >>> but, I had always got a positive response from NFB rather than NAB, & >>> therefore I said like this. Please don't take it other wice. >>> >>> Dear/Respected Moderator, if you want to remove me from this list, >>> kindly inform me 1st. But, I can never tollerate any wrong words >>> against Mr. Rungtha, &, ask to Mr. abidi to clarrify, how bill has got >>> mixed up? >>> >>> Why do you laugh on ND TV? Just because, moderator doesn't give chance >>> to Mr. Rungtha to clear his stand? You can do that much only. That's >>> why we can call you anti visually impaired. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> God examine those whom loves he the most. >>> >>> >>> >>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>> of >>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> [email protected] >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please >>> visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Disclaimer: >>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of >>> the >>> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >>> >>> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the >>> mails >>> sent through this mailing list.. >>> >> >> >> -- >> nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so. >> >> r. aravind, >> clerk in andhrabank, >> mobile no: +91 9940369593, >> email id : [email protected], [email protected]. >> >> >> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >> of mobile phones / Tabs on: >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> [email protected] >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Disclaimer: >> 1. 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