I know it is difficult to be sure of a scribe till the last minute and I have gone through this hell myself. I had told you to keep a petition ready for the High Court while you were waiting for this letter and I had also told you that I would be in Delhi from the 20th of May to help if needed-please refer to previous emails on this subject. Just check on the different centres available forthis exam-is there one centre in Delhi or many. UPSC has many examinees sitting so they can actually have one common venue for all disabled examinees. I don't know how many sit for the Judicial services exams and how many centres ae there. I would have liked you to go to court rather than the CCPD for the accessible papers and etra time etc. Pankaj or Akhilesh could have handled this matter if you had listened to me at that time. I would have also been in Delhi and we would have won. This would have closed the matter for ever. Delhi HC has a vacation court from next week CCPD will give the orders I am sure but implementation is difficult by 1st June. Anyway send it tomorrow for sure with a copy to the Delhi registry. I would actually like you to write to the Registry on extra time. If it works great and if does not then it will definitely work for the next time. This is the same problem with UPSC. Most of the people don't follow up during the yearand only wake up towards the last few days. I don't like this and keep following up whether exams are due or not. If you don't want my comments as someone on this group has suggested then please let me know and I will stop answering your emails. Take care and work hard. Kanchan -----Original Message----- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafel Sent: 18 May 2014 12:45 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi judicial services exam
1. Their condition is that the person must not graduate/post graduate in law, I accept it, but this conditionality can be ascertained at the day of the examination too. It is not easy for a visually challenged to find a person who could commit you that in any case he would be available after 10 days, (because the letter has to reach to high court latest by 25). 2. Accessible venue mean, the venue which is well connected to popular transport means such as Delhi metro, or is situated at well known place, or is near to candidate's residential area. So that it could be easy to reach the exam center with out much difficulty. Say for instance, the examination center allotted to me is at the other corner of Delhi and the place is not connected to Delhi metro, it gets difficult to reach at such venues. What UPSC does, they keep center near to Delhi metro where u don't have to cross the road even. More over at such venues the staf also are not trained to cater the special requirement of disabled candidates. Mam, what can I do now, except going to CCPD, at least to order high court administration to provide question paper in accessible format and to remove the condition of firnishing an affidavit one week in advance. Indirectly high court administration compeling the VI candidates to accept their own scribes. And yes, I am concentrating on my syllabus, but before the exam, the worrey of scribe is horrible. On 5/18/14, KanchanPamnani <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't agree with 1. You have to give the name and details of your scribe > before the exam. Hardly any examining body allows you to get a scribe at > the last minute. This is also for your own safety-in case someone rejects > it. You were aware of your exams and should have a few friends as backup. > 2. You must ask them in a polite letter and email about the extra time and > the accessible question papers. Then go to the CCPD. > 3. What do you mean by an accessible venue for the visually challenged? > This > is normally very important for the physically challenged. Please explain in > detail. Also if there is only one venue in Delhi for such exams then > unlikely that they will make any special change for you. What you must get > is a quiet place away from other examinees where no one overhears the > dictation to your scribe. > I hope you have studied well and are concentrating on your syllabus now. > Best wishes > Kanchan > > -----Original Message----- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Mohib Anwar Rafel > Sent: 18 May 2014 11:38 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in > Delhi > judicial services exam > > 1. condition of producing scribes documents one week ahead of the > examination are not acceptable to me. Because its difficult to ensure > the availability of that very person, I have to approach my friends > and will have to decide who will be available on that day, as they > themselves are not sure about their availability. > 2. They haven't specified regarding extra time. as per their old > rules, they provide 15 minutes per hour, while it must not be less > than 20 minutes per hour. > 3. I asked them to allot the examination center at accessible venue, > which they have totally rejected and informed that allotting the > center is done through another agency, therefore its not possible. > 4. I want that question paper must be provided to me in accessible > format viz. in MS word or html format with screen reader. If they > provide me question paper in computer, I will be having no problem > with their scribe. > > I am planning to go to CCPD immideatly tomorrow to ensure the above points. > > On 5/18/14, KanchanPamnani <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Please scan the letter received and send it directly to me. >> Also what happened about the extra time. >> Are you satisfied. >> What provision do you want to challenge? >> Kanchan >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf >> Of Mohib Anwar Rafel >> Sent: 17 May 2014 22:10 >> To: accessindia >> Subject: [AI] Urgent legal assistance required in scribe matter in Delhi >> judicial services exam >> >> Hi friends, I am going to appear in Delhi Judicial Services exam which >> is scheduled to be held on 1st of June 2014. Earlier I submitted a >> representation to Registrar General of Delhi High Court regarding >> implementation of of MSJE and CCPD guidelines in upcoming DJS exam. >> Wherein I demanded that the candidates must be allowed to bring their >> own scribe and, 20 minutes compensatory time should be allotted each >> hour to the candidate using services of the scribe. >> Today (17th May) I received a letter from assistant registrar of Delhi >> High court, allowing me to bring their own scribe and asking to >> firnish the detail of scribe. I have problem with their conditions, >> the letter reads as under: >> "From >> The Registrar General High Court of Delhi New Delhi >> I am directed to inform you that you have been permitted to bring a >> scribe of your choice for appearing in Delhi Judicial Service >> Preliminary Examination - 2014 scheduled to be held on 01.06.2014, >> subject to the condition that you will submit an affidavit containing >> the details of the scribe viz, his name, father's name, residential >> address, educational qualification and an undertaking that the scribe >> is not a graduate / post-graduate in Law. >> I am further directed to inform you that the aforesaid affidavit duly >> sworn by you along with a photograph of the scribe, shall reach the >> office of Joint Registrar (Vig.) by 25.05.2014 and in case of >> nonreceipt thereof, it shall be presumed that you are no longer >> interested in bringing your own scribe and in that eventuality, the >> scribe will be provided by this Court at the respective Test Centre on >> the date of the Examination. >> >> Yours faithfully, >> (Manish Aggarwal) >> Assistant Registrar (Vigilance.)" >> >> Respected members, these conditions are clearly contradictory to MSJE >> guidelines. In case I am bringing my own scribe, before one week of >> exam how can I ensure that I will bring such and such person? Some >> time it is dependent upon the availability of the person and sometime >> it is decided only one day ahead of the examination that who will be >> my scribe. Here its very problematic to supply the details of the >> scribe, indirectly they are again pushing us to accept their scribe >> who are not even know how to read questions properly. I want to know >> whether any humanright agency, any advocate on the list can help us to >> file a petition on the behalf of candidates? If I will go personally, >> it will take time and this precious time for the preparation of the >> exam will be wested there. >> Respected Adv. Subhash Vasist, can u do something for us? >> >> >> >> -- >> Mohib Anwar Rafel >> 2009 - 2011 M.Phil, International Legal Studies, JNU. >> 2011 - 2013 LL.M, Faculty of Law, University of Delhi. >> 2013 - Pursuing Ph.D in International Law, JNU >> Phone: 09811767506, >> 09211194222 >> >> >> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >> of >> mobile phones / Tabs on: >> > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind >> ia.org.in >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >> please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Disclaimer: >> 1. 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