Nitesh, will be glad to know how the trip turned. Friends, am comfortable walking alone, not with a female. Am overprotective and don't want them to take lead. I try to get rid of this nature but a change seems improbable.
Do we have blind men who always lead and never botch it? On 5/28/14, Pranav Lal <[email protected]> wrote: > <snip But still he says, if guide or taxi will misguide to some wrong place > PL] There are several workarounds to this. > 1. I usually ask cab drivers how long it will take to get to a place. I > verify this information with hotel staff or local shopkeepers etc. > 2. I use GPS to plot the destination directly or a landmark near the > destination. A case in point is a trip to Chandigarh. I was with a sighted > colleague once and the autoriksha we took from the station took us away > from > our destination. I could tell this was happening because the distance to > the > landmark I had plotted was increasing. My sighted colleague did not know > the > city. We pointed this out to the autoriksha driver who turned around and > returned us to the station. He had mistaken our destination for an IT park > which was at the other end of the city from our destination. > <snip If I visit any temple or beach or I am late after dinner then is it > safe? > PL] This depends on the city and neighborhood. Your friend has to maintain > situation awareness at all times. Many of us who travel have been late. I > believe temples have closing times. Your friend should make his bookings > and > go. A bit of advanced planning works wonders. For example, book a guide for > a temple and keep the cab waiting when visiting a beach. Keep the mobile > number of the cab driver handy on a mobile phone. Ensure both of them have > that information. Both the participants should keep their mobile phones > charged at all times. In addition, discuss contingencies with the cab > driver. E.G. We will finish by 10:30 so if we do not come, come to the > point > you picked us up from. > > Pranav > -----Original Message----- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of nitesh gupta > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:33 PM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Is tour possible, casual and safe for VH. > > Friends! Awesome to read your enthusiastic and encouraging replies. > I have conveyed each and every tiny essence of this thread to my > apprehensive friend. > He is talking optimistic regarding trip. > > But still he says, if guide or taxi will misguide to some wrong place > then how a blind couple will know? > If I visit any temple or beach or I am late after dinner then is it safe? > > > > On 5/24/14, Shadab Husain <[email protected]> wrote: >> Nitesh, if your friend has never been out of station alone, tell him >> to first have an experience of it. He can also first take her to local >> places to check his ability. >> >> Girls wish to be in the company of strong, independent men because >> they want security from them. if your friend fails to be confident, it >> will spoil the trip. >> >> A-male-guide-holding-the-female-hand situation is never tolerable. A >> sensitive girl can ruin several hours in that. >> >> They both must think over all the situations that can come their >> way...with girls it is riskier. >> >> On 5/23/14, nidhi goyal <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi nitesh, >>> I am glad you put out this problem in front of the group. And I am >>> extremely delighted to see the enthusiastic responses from the >>> experienced. >>> You have more than a few tips listed by your friends. But as a VI >>> woman with a VI brother and many VI friends (male as well) I would >>> like to add a few points. >>> Ask your friend not to be so apprehensive. It's only when he goes on >>> the trip, he will figure out the solutions to all of these. He cant >>> really prepare for every eventuality in advance. So besides general >>> preparation, confidence will be his key. >>> if there is still some time left before he plans this trip, please >>> ask him to get a white cane and try and get his mobility in place. The >>> cabs and the guides take you so far. You have to have the ability to >>> get up and walk out or in a restaurant or hotel etc on your own if you >>> are planning to have a nice time as a VI and specially with another VI >>> mate. Also, i have researched a bit in disability and romance and my >>> findings say that women (disabled or nondisabled) feel safer and more >>> secure if their partner is independent (irrespective of blind or >>> otherwise). >>> >>> I have been to other cities (in India and abroad) with my brother and >>> my VI friends. and to give you an example I was strolling in a park >>> with a VI friend and I as a VI woman, would have hated to have a guide >>> hovering in the background while we swopped our childhood stories, or >>> crazy moments, ideological opinions etc. not at every moment did we >>> know where we were heading. sometimes my friend took the lead, >>> sometimes i did and it was fun. >>> And of course, there is no harm in a woman guiding you - VI or >>> otherwise- but men (not generalizing but many of them) tend to get >>> either too demeaned with this, or get quite insecure about the male >>> waitor / guide/ cabby holding their lady partners and guiding them. >>> Hope your friend will not be similarly affected - always assuming his >>> mate is better with mobility and the white cane. >>> That is a lengthy list and of course I could keep writing but I think >>> we all have by now overwhelmed your friend! >>> Good luck and fun time to him and his partner. >>> Cheers, >>> Nidhi Goyal >>> Disability and gender rights advocate, India >>> MSC Development Studies, LSE >>> Twitter @saysnidhigoyal >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/23/14, Amar Jain <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hi Nitesh, >>>> >>>> I surely don't have the experience of any tour with a female partner >>>> as such, but being a person who does not hold stick in hand I can give >>>> you some tips which I generally follow. >>>> >>>> 1. Reached at the entrence of the Airport. Now if your cab driver for >>>> whatever reason cannot drop you to the counter then use security staff >>>> present there for help. >>>> Generally Meru and other such cool cab drivers manage to either drop >>>> you or get you someone who can drop you. >>>> >>>> 2. Hotels and all such details are available online or you can get >>>> numbers from Just Dial etc. Book them in advance to avoid last minute >>>> tensions. >>>> >>>> Use waiters wherever you need, such as auto catching or food serving >>>> in the room. Tip them. >>>> >>>> 3. For outing I strongly recommend city tour services given by >>>> government and private operators. >>>> Firstly you have co-passengers so less chance of missing things. >>>> Secondly you can take help from conductors. It depends, sometimes it >>>> may not work. >>>> >>>> 4. Food serving part can be managed in 2 ways. One is that before >>>> sitting inform to the owner or the counter guy that you need help, and >>>> second is to take waiter's cell number so that if you need anything, >>>> either call or miss call depending on your conversation. Otherwise do >>>> not feel shy to put up hand if you can sense that waiter is passing >>>> by. >>>> However be careful while putting up hand, as if not done properly, it >>>> can create unnecessary drama. >>>> >>>> The most important part about the safety of your partner, I can only >>>> say that be little cautious with whomsoever you are dealing with, take >>>> their details, do not tell where you are staying or your personal >>>> details, and just like how we care for our sister care for your >>>> partner. >>>> >>>> Wish that lucky couple a happy trip! >>>> -- >>>> Amar Jain. >>>> Website: www.amarjain.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>>> of >>>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>> > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind > ia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Search for old postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>> [email protected] >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please >>>> visit the list home page at >>>> > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Disclaimer: >>>> 1. 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