So awaiting Adv Subhash Vashistha response in the matter. If necessary, we should go again to CCPD to stop this undesired and unconvenient impose.
On 4/13/15, Vishnu Ramchandani <[email protected]> wrote: > I think, S C Vashishth and Bhavani Shankar Varma can throw more light on > this. They have fought the case of availing online concession. > > -----Original Message----- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Mohib Anwar Rafay > Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 8:31 PM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Are railway concession certificates invalid after > introduction of E card? > > But anyways, how can we stop it happening. In my never humble opinion, both > documents should be applicable. Mean at least this certificate should work > for those who haven't applied for e card or are not willing to avail the > benefit of electronic card. > > On 4/11/15, Aravind <[email protected]> wrote: >> hi friends how can they endors on the original Concession Certificate >> if the sirtificate is laminated >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mukesh jain >> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 10:17 PM >> To: [email protected] ; AccessIndia: a list for discussing >> accessibility and issues concerningthe disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] Are railway concession certificates invalid after >> introduction of E card? >> >> I don't know the reason why the page is not available? Hence, sending >> the link of dropbox. You may download this circular from this link: >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3482069/CC_18_2015.pdf >> >> fortunately, this time, railway authority is well aware about the >> procedure. While enquiring at drm office, they were well aware about >> it. So contact your nearest drm office. >> >> I am also pasting it's contents below. >> Note: this is just the result of the scanned ocr output. >> GOVERNMENT OF INDIA >> MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS >> (RAILWAY BOARD) >> No.2011/TG"I/10/e-ticketing for disabled/Pt.I The General Managers >> (Commercial), All Zonal Railways. >> MD/CRIS, >> Chanakyapuri, New Delhi. >> Managing Director/ IRCTC, >> 11th Floor, Statesman House, >> Barakhamba Road, >> New Delhi. >> (COMMERCIAL CIRCULAR NO. 18 OF 2015) >> Sub: Concession based ticketing including online ticketing for the >> physically challenged persons using Photo Identity Card issued by the >> Railways. >> Ref: Board's letter of even number dated 03.02.2015, As already >> advised vide Board's letter referred to above, a pilot project has >> been launched on Northern Railway for concession based ticketing >> through counters as well as internet (online booking) for the >> physically challenged persons using Photo Identity Card with unique ID >> number issued by the Railway. >> 2. Pursuant to the Budget Announcement of the Hon'ble MR during >> presentation of the Railway Budget 2015-16, it has now been decided by >> Board to launch this Scheme on all Indian Railways which will enable >> the physically challenged persons to book concessional reserved >> tickets across PRS counters, e-ticket/i-ticket through IRCTC website >> and also concessional unreserved tickets across the UTS counters >> throughout the country on the authority of Photo Identity Card (which >> will be uniquely numbered) to be issued by the Railways. The detailed >> procedure to be followed for implementation of the Scheme along with a >> specimen of the Photo Identity Card are enclosed herewith, 3, CRIS and >> all Zonal Railways are requested to ensure effective imple the Scheme >> at the earliest under intimation to this office. >> (Dr. S. >> Director Traffic Commercial (G) Railway Board >> -2/- >> -2- >> Copy to: >> 1) CCM/PMs and CCM/PSs, all Zonal Railways. >> 2) EDV (T), EDFC, DF(C), OSD/TC, F(C) & V (SS) branches of Railway Board. >> 3) MD/IRCTC, Bank of Baroda Building, Parliament Street, New Delhi. >> 4) General Manager/PRS-I, CRIS, Chanakyapuri, New Delhi. >> 5) Director General, Professor/Training & Professor/Commercial Railway >> Staff College, Vadodara. >> 6) The Principals, Zonal Training Centers, Central Railway/Bhusaval, >> Eastern Railway/Bhuli/Dhanbad, Northern Railway/Chandausi, NE >> Railway/Muzaffarpur, NF Railway/Alipurduar, Southern Railway/Trichy, >> South Central Railway/Maula Ali, SE Railway/Sini, North Western >> Railway/Udaipur. >> 7) Director, Indian Railway Institute of Transport Management, Hardoi >> Bypass Road, Manak Nagar, Lucknow 226 Oil. >> 8) General Secretary, National Federation of Indian Railwaymen (NFIR), >> 3, Chelmsford Road, New Delhi. >> 9) General Secretary, All India Railwaymen Federation (AIRF), 4, State >> Entry Road, New Delhi. >> 10) Secretary General, Federation of Railway Officers Association >> (FROA), Room No.370, Rail Bhawan, New Delhi. >> 11) Secretary General, Indian Railway Promotee Officers Federation >> (IRPOF), Room No.268, Rail Bhawan, New Delhi. >> 12) Secretary General, All India RPF Association, Room No.256-D, Rail >> Bhawan, New Delhi. >> 13) CTM, Metro Railway, Metro Rail Bhavan, 33/1, J L Nehru Road, >> Kolkata-71. >> >> Detailed Procedure to be followed for implementation of the Scheme for >> Concession Based e-ticketing through IRCTC as well as issuing Counter >> Tickets for the Physically Challenged Persons, i.e., Orthopedicallv >> Handicapped/Deaf & Dumb/Mentallv Retarded/Blind Patients: >> 1. Physically Challenged Person entitled for Railway concession will >> approach nearest D.R.M. Office along with all the relevant documents >> viz. Concession Certificate, Photo Identity proof, Date of Birth >> proof, Address proof and two passport size photographs either in >> person or by post for issuing Railway Photo Identity card by >> submitting one set of attested photocopies (self attested) of the said >> documents. It should be addressed to Sr. DCM of the concerned >> division. The envelope containing documents should be superscribed >> "Application for issue of railway Identity Card for Physically >> Challenged Persons for ticketing". >> 2. DRM office will get the Concession Certificate, IDs etc. verified >> by Commercial Inspector, who will contact/visit the hospital which has >> issued the certificate for verifying the authenticity of certificate. >> Ensuring correctness of particulars and other factual details shall be >> the responsibility of verifying official. On the basis of Commercial >> Inspector's report, Sr. DCM will issue Identity Card to Physically >> Challenged Person. The total process till the issuance of card should >> be completed within reasonable time from the date of receipt of the >> application. >> 3. After due verification of the documents, a Photo Identity Card in >> prescribed format, containing a Unique ID number, shall be issued >> under the signature of the Sr. DCM and the card details will be fed in >> PRS database. The applicant will be informed telephonically to collect >> the card (contact no. may be mentioned on the form by the applicant). >> The physically challenged person or his/her representative (with >> proper authority letter) on his/her behalf can collect the card >> showing the original certificates. >> 4, At the time of issuing Photo Identity Card with unique ID number >> against a valid Concession Certificate, details of the card issued >> will be endorsed on the original Concession Certificate (by affixing a >> stamp mentioning division, date of issue/initials) and thereafter >> concessional tickets shall be issued on the authority of the said card >> only and the Concession Certificate will not be accepted for issuing >> concessional tickets. >> 5. Only Concession Certificate issued by the Government Hospital/ >> Clinic/Institutions, as the case may be, lying in the area within the >> jurisdiction of concerned Zonal Railways will be considered for >> issuing Photo Identity Cards. >> 6, The Photo Identity Card with unique ID number will be used for >> internet ticketing as well as getting concessional reserved and >> unreserved tickets issued from PRS/ UTS counters. A photocopy of Photo >> Identity Card may be retained on PRS/UTS counters. The passenger will >> have to carry the Photo Identity Card in original during the journey >> and shall be required to produce the same for verification during on- >> Board/off-Board checking. >> -2/- >> -2- >> 7. The extant instructions with regard to escort in case of booking of >> concessional tickets through counters may also be applicable in case >> of booking concessional tickets through internet. The details of any >> one of the ten valid ID proofs of the escort should be indicated while >> booking concessional reserved tickets through internet and PRS >> counters which will be fed in the system and the same must be carried >> in original during the journey for onboard/off board verification, 8. >> The validity of the card will be five years from the date of issue or >> till the last date up to which the concession certificate is valid, >> whichever is earlier. >> 9, After getting the Photo Identity card, the cardholder or his/her >> authorized representative will have to get it laminated. The PRS/ UTS >> concessional tickets shall be issued on the basis of data/ particulars >> stored in Data base, 10, In case of loss of a Photo Identity Card with >> Unique ID number, another Card will be issued after disabling the >> existing card by following the same procedure and submitting the copy >> of the FIR, After disabling of a Card, no fresh bookings would be >> possible but cancellations of reservations done prior to disabling of >> the Card would be permitted by the system. >> 11. At the time of expiry of validity of the card, new card may be got >> issued by submitting a fresh application and following the same >> procedure up to three months before expiry of the validity period of >> the card. Old card shall be collected and disabled before/ at the time >> of issuing new card. >> 12. The registered users on the website of IRCTC will be able to book >> concessional tickets in exactly the same manner as is being done today >> for booking e-tickets/ i- tickets by feeding Unique ID number of >> his/her Railway Photo Identity Card and other additional details of >> the photo Identity card. The user can opt for either Electronic >> Reservation Slip or Internet ticket. While the internet ticket is >> delivered at home, the passenger will have to take out printout of the >> Electronic Reservation Slip (ERS) himself/herself or/and SMS/VRM along >> with I.D. proof. >> 13. Other procedures for payment etc. will remain the same as per >> existing procedure of Internet ticketing / E-ticketing, 14. In case of >> misuse/ fraudulent use of the Card comes into the notice, the Railway >> Administration may Block the Card. No transactions would be permitted >> by the system on such Blocked Cards and previous reservations done on >> such cards would also be seized/ cancelled. >> 15. The Journey ticket/ ERS/ SMS/ VRM/ MRM, along with the Photo >> Identity card with Unique Number issued by Railway in original will >> constitute the travel authority. Without the original Photo Identity >> card with Unique Number, Journey ticket/ ERS/ SMS will have no value >> and the passenger will be treated as travelling without ticket and >> charged accordingly. >> -3- >> 16. Cancellation and Refund on PRS/ UTS tickets issued from Railway >> counters will be as per extant rules for normal PRS/ UTS tickets >> issued from Railway counters. >> 17. Cancellation of Internet tickets: >> a. Before Charting: Cancellation of Internet tickets booked under this >> scheme will be done as per the existing procedure followed by IRCTC >> for other internet(I./E.) tickets. >> b. After Charting: Cancellation of confirmed Internet tickets will be >> done only as per the existing procedure followed by IRCTC for internet >> (I/E) tickets. >> 18. Rules for travelling on partially confirmed waitlisted Internet >> tickets and waitlisted Internet tickets shall be the same as are >> presently applicable to other passengers. >> 19. CRIS will make necessary changes in the software to indicate on >> the chart against the handicapped passengers and the Escort who are >> booked under this scheme against Photo Identity Card with Unique ID >> number to facilitate the ticket checking staff to identify such >> passengers. The details of Photo Identity Card will also be printed on >> the reservation chart in addition to other particulars. >> 20. In case the handicapped passenger booked on Internet ticket under >> this scheme forgets to carry the ERS/ fails to display SMS/ VRM/ MRM >> due to any eventuality (loss of ERS, loss/ discharging of Mobile >> Phone/ Laptop etc.), he will be charged as per extant rule for similar >> cases for other Internet passengers. The Ticket Checking Staff will >> issue him an EFT after collecting the prescribed charges. The >> passenger will use this EFT to exit from the station. However, the >> ticket checking staff will have to satisfy himself that the >> particulars on the photo identity card of the passenger match with the >> particulars appearing on the chart. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 4/9/15, Neelima Surve <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hello! >>> >>> This error occurs. >>> >>> >>> The Indianrailways web page you've requested is not available at this >>> time. It can be due to any of the several possible reasons: >>> >>> Page not found. >>> >>> The web address entered by you is incorrect. >>> >>> Technical difficulties are preventing us from displaying the >>> requested page. >>> >>> If you tried to load a bookmarked page, or followed a link >>> from another Web site, it's possible that the URL you've requested >>> has been moved/deleted . >>> >>> >>> >>> Please see this. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Neelima >>> >>> On 4/9/15, mukesh jain <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> hello, >>>> indian railways has issued the circular on 19th, March, 2015 >>>> instructing all the zones to issue the identity card to physically >>>> handicapped persons to facilitate them to book the concessional >>>> Eticket and also from the ticket counters authrised by them. >>>> initially, this project was launched on pilot basis in northern >>>> railways. you can download this circular from here: >>>> www.indianrailways.gov.in/railwayboard/uploads/.../CC_18_2015.pdf >>>> thanks, >>>> >>>> On 4/9/15, Mohib Anwar Rafay <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hi all, one of my friends is facing difficulty in booking the >>>>> railway ticket with the help of his railway concession certificate. >>>>> He made this concession certificate last month as per the revised >>>>> performa. >>>>> But my friend has been advised to make a new ID card from >>>>> commercial office of railway, and also told that these certificates >>>>> are no longer valid. >>>>> Is there any such notification or circular from the railway? 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