Thanks for the pointer. I wasn't aware of that work.

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To: Ludwig Seitz
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Subject: Re: [Ace] Application Layer TLS


Just to keep it on record:
We also had a draft which may find some relevance in the present context:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bhattacharyya-dice-less-on-coap-00
Related publication: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7096256/

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-----"Ace" <[email protected]> wrote: -----
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From: Ludwig Seitz
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Date: 11/21/2017 03:37PM
Subject: Re: [Ace] Application Layer TLS

On 2017-11-21 10:42, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> based on the recent email discussion about the DTLS proxy I thought it
> might be useful that there was some thinking about how to run TLS/DTLS
> at the application layer.
>
> There are essentially two drafts that have been submitted at the same
> time for IETF#100, namely
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-tschofenig-layered-tls-00
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-friel-tls-over-http-00
>
> Both teams have worked on prototypes and getting it to work was
> remarkably simple.
>
> Maybe something for this group to look at.
>
> Ciao
> Hannes


I have a vague memory of a DICE draft for doing the DTLS handshake over CoAP a 
long time ago:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-schmertmann-dice-codtls-00

Can the original authors tell us why they didn't go further with that approach?

/Ludwig


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