Hannes,

Hannes Tschofenig <[email protected]> writes:

> Hi all,
>
> based on the recent email discussion about the DTLS proxy I thought it might
> be useful that there was some thinking about how to run TLS/DTLS at the
> application layer.

I don't understand this statement.  The whole point of TLS/DTLS is that
it runs at the Application Layer (as opposed to at the network layer,
like IPsec).  Indeed, the fact that it could run at the application
layer (e.g. in a web brower / web server) is exactly why SSL/TLS was
created in the first place.  It meant you didn't require waiting for the
kernel/OS to add network security.

> There are essentially two drafts that have been submitted at the same time for
> IETF#100, namely
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-tschofenig-layered-tls-00
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-friel-tls-over-http-00

So you are moving the application layer up even higher than the historic
view of an application layer?

Perhaps we need a better naming scheme here.

> Both teams have worked on prototypes and getting it to work was remarkably
> simple.

-derek
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