On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Daniel McCarney <c...@letsencrypt.org>
wrote:

>  I filed Issue #356 [1] to track the lost functionality here, and how we
>> might want to add it back.
>
>
> From #356:
>
> " In making that change, we dropped support for certain legacy back-end
>> APIs that require a CSR before issuing challenges"
>
>
> Which legacy back-end APIs are you referring to? I recall many weeks ago
> you thought a specific commercial CA and a specific certificate re-seller
> required CSR in new-order but both confirmed off-list they did not.
>
> It's frustrating to see continued resistance on the back of constraints
> imposed by vague legacy systems without name. Where are the
> users/maintainers of these systems to express their concerns at the
> perceived "drop of support" to the working group directly?
>

Dude, it's just a tracking issue, assigned to the Defer milestone.  It's
not blocking any work here.

The canonical example for me here is SSLMate [1], which takes a CSR up
front, I'm told because the back-ends it uses require it.  Andrew Ayer, who
maintains SSLMate, is on this list, and might be able to provide further
insight.

But like I said, this is not blocking anything for the base spec any more.
It's just a possible extension if someone shows up and asks for the feature.

--Richard


[1] https://sslmate.com/help/api/rest



>
> - Daniel / cpu
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Richard Barnes <r...@ipv.sx> wrote:
>
>> I think this is fine to land now.  It's not my favorite approach, but
>> there's clear consensus.  I filed Issue #356 [1] to track the lost
>> functionality here, and how we might want to add it back.
>>
>> https://github.com/ietf-wg-acme/acme/issues/356
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Jacob Hoffman-Andrews <j...@eff.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Daniel McCarney's been working on PR#342, which changes the new-order
>>> flow to take a list of identifiers instead of a CSR, and to be finalized
>>> with a CSR: https://github.com/ietf-wg-acme/acme/pull/342. We've had
>>> some back-and-forth on the list about this, versus CSR-first, versus
>>> CSR-first-and-last. There was some further discussion at IETF 100
>>> (minutes:
>>> https://github.com/thomas-fossati/acme-minutes/blob/master/ietf-100.md),
>>> and we hummed to accept PR 342 over the alternatives.
>>>
>>> If there's anyone here who couldn't make it to the meeting and would
>>> like to raise strenuous objections, please speak up now, otherwise we'll
>>> incorporate that change.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jacob
>>>
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