>
> The canonical example for me here is SSLMate [1], which takes a CSR up
> front, I'm told because the back-ends it uses require it.  Andrew Ayer, who
> maintains SSLMate, is on this list, and might be able to provide further
> insight.


SSLMate/Andrew are the reseller I recall confirming could accommodate #342
without needing a CSR in new-order. I hope Andrew can clarify if I'm
remembering incorrectly.



On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Richard Barnes <r...@ipv.sx> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Daniel McCarney <c...@letsencrypt.org>
> wrote:
>
>>  I filed Issue #356 [1] to track the lost functionality here, and how we
>>> might want to add it back.
>>
>>
>> From #356:
>>
>> " In making that change, we dropped support for certain legacy back-end
>>> APIs that require a CSR before issuing challenges"
>>
>>
>> Which legacy back-end APIs are you referring to? I recall many weeks ago
>> you thought a specific commercial CA and a specific certificate re-seller
>> required CSR in new-order but both confirmed off-list they did not.
>>
>> It's frustrating to see continued resistance on the back of constraints
>> imposed by vague legacy systems without name. Where are the
>> users/maintainers of these systems to express their concerns at the
>> perceived "drop of support" to the working group directly?
>>
>
> Dude, it's just a tracking issue, assigned to the Defer milestone.  It's
> not blocking any work here.
>
> The canonical example for me here is SSLMate [1], which takes a CSR up
> front, I'm told because the back-ends it uses require it.  Andrew Ayer, who
> maintains SSLMate, is on this list, and might be able to provide further
> insight.
>
> But like I said, this is not blocking anything for the base spec any
> more.  It's just a possible extension if someone shows up and asks for the
> feature.
>
> --Richard
>
>
> [1] https://sslmate.com/help/api/rest
>
>
>
>>
>> - Daniel / cpu
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Richard Barnes <r...@ipv.sx> wrote:
>>
>>> I think this is fine to land now.  It's not my favorite approach, but
>>> there's clear consensus.  I filed Issue #356 [1] to track the lost
>>> functionality here, and how we might want to add it back.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/ietf-wg-acme/acme/issues/356
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Jacob Hoffman-Andrews <j...@eff.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Daniel McCarney's been working on PR#342, which changes the new-order
>>>> flow to take a list of identifiers instead of a CSR, and to be finalized
>>>> with a CSR: https://github.com/ietf-wg-acme/acme/pull/342. We've had
>>>> some back-and-forth on the list about this, versus CSR-first, versus
>>>> CSR-first-and-last. There was some further discussion at IETF 100
>>>> (minutes:
>>>> https://github.com/thomas-fossati/acme-minutes/blob/master/ietf-100.md
>>>> ),
>>>> and we hummed to accept PR 342 over the alternatives.
>>>>
>>>> If there's anyone here who couldn't make it to the meeting and would
>>>> like to raise strenuous objections, please speak up now, otherwise we'll
>>>> incorporate that change.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jacob
>>>>
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