Coming from more of a networking background than an AD background I 
wouldn't have immediately thought of super-netting out right, myself. So 
the point is well taken. If given this problem with no other background 
I'd probably think more in terms of 'brouting' (bridged routing) or using 
Server 2000/2003 routing features to bridge the two segments rather than 
do some bridging through more traditional networking means. Either is 
possible - even viable it depends more on the individual preferences and 
topology. You could certainly test both options to see which gives you the 
best performace. Though I suspect that using the brouter technique, off 
loading some of the processing to the network may give the best 
performance in the longer run, no?

Been a long time since I have even said the term 'brouter'. Sounds so 
ancient. Theres my fuel to the fire, Enjoy!



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Employee Technology Solutions, Inc.

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> I think that someone knowing this wouldn't have post the question.
 
I don't agree with this part. A lot of people don't think you can supernet 
AD subnets. In fact I have had people tell me outright it is impossible to 
do that in AD even when I tell them it has been my standard practice since 
Windows 2000 RTM'ed. They think it is just like the routing subnets where 
you have to very careful what you are doing or you will break packet 
routing. I see this question on a pretty regular basis in various forums, 
at least once per month.
 
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I know there is not a direct relation, but i don't know if the original 
poster understand that this can't work if it's the
real implementation.
 
I think that someone knowing this wouldn't have post the question.
 
Regards,
Mathieu CHATEAU
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: joe 
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Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:03 PM
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You are mistaking machine subnetting and subnetting defined in AD. They 
are not connected. The definitions in AD do not have to reflect what is 
really happening at the routing layer. They are generally close but there 
isn't any technical reason why they have to be. 
 
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mathieu CHATEAU
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 4:34 PM
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is it really 10.10.0.0/16 or a mistake (/24) ?
Because your first site won't be able to joint the other one as it will 
think it's local and won't sent packet to the gateway (if it's really a 
/16). 
 
If it's a real /24, then it will works as expected (10.10.41.104 will be 
attached to the secondary site).
 
If it's a /16 and you need router between both site, your configuration 
can't work from a network point of view.
Regards,
Mathieu CHATEAU
http://lordoftheping.blogspot.com
 
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Brian Cline 
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:19 PM
Subject: [ActiveDir] Overlapping AD Subnet Boundaries

Say I create an AD subnet of 10.10.0.0/16 and assign it to our primary 
site, and another subnet as 10.10.41.0/24 and assign it to a secondary 
site. Will AD treat a client address of, say, 10.10.41.104 as a client on 
the secondary site, or will it default to the more general primary subnet? 
The reason I ask is we now have a need for a second AD site (I can see all 
the enterprise folks grinning now) and we have quite a number of other 
subnets that I’d have to manually enter if this is not the case. I don’t 
mind doing it, but I was curious either way.
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