Sure, Roger.  Go ahead - split hairs! 

;-)

-rtk


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You are correct, but realistically a DDNS setup requires DNS and DCs to
coexist, I'd expect that to be the much more likely scenario.

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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:34 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] What Services/Server's can be combined with 
> Active Directory.
> 
> 
> Missy,
> 
> Doesn't this only apply when a DNS is also present on the DC? 
>  Combining the DNS and DHCP services can cause a security issue as you 
> noted.  But, if I combine DC services and DNS services, the compromise 
> is not possible.  Also, if I combine DHCP and DC functionality, I'm 
> still secure - true?
> 
> Good to have you here!
> 
> Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
> Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>   
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Missy 
> Koslosky
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:18 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Glenn,
> 
> I'd want to keep DHCP off my DC's to avoid name hijacking.  
> See http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q255134
> 
> Hope all is well with you!
> 
> Missy Koslosky
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glenn Corbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 5:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] What Services/Server's can be combined with 
> Active Directory.
> 
> 
> John,
> 
> The reason why you havent really been able to find a source, is that 
> the answer is "it depends".
> 
> Depending on the size of your sites, the amount of data, number of 
> clients, other applications using DC services etc, you can really have 
> a single server that does DC, GC, DNS, WINS, DHCP, FP.  I really 
> wouldn't worry about putting DHCP on a server by itself, the load is 
> so small. Out of all of the infrastructure services, DCHP is probably 
> the smallest load.  Client machines get a dhcp address when they 
> start, and IIRC there are two requests during the lifetime of the IP 
> address (one halfway though, and one at the end of the lease).  So for 
> a 2 week lease timeout, you have essentially
> 3 requests to a DHCP server which is nothing to really worry about.
> 
> I recently did some AD design work where small sites (up to about 30 
> uers) had a single server (Dual PIII 2+Ghz) ran all the functions 
> listed previously, plus Exchange with no real trouble.  For larger 
> sites, my suggestion would be one "infrastructure server" (DC, GC, 
> WINS, DHCP, DNS), and "application server(s)" (File Print, Exchange 
> etc).
> 
> As long as you design your AD site topology correctly (so that 
> replication is optimised, and GC placement is relevant for your 
> clients), AD can pretty much co-exist with most things, its a question 
> of network bandwidth and load on the server.  Other Databases (like 
> Exchange, SQL, Oracle) are really the main applications you need to be 
> careful with when putting on the same server as AD, because they can 
> cramp each others style (Exchange and SQL on the same box for example 
> is very touchy).
> 
> If you are thinking or layering other applications onto an AD DC, just 
> have a read of the requirements.  In a lot of cases MS "force" you 
> down a particular path. For example, SUS (System Update Services), and 
> MOM (Microsoft Ops Manager) wont run on DC's, so you are forced to put 
> in an additional server to run these.
> 
> so, as for your original question *grin*, I would have one server that 
> does the "infrastructure" stuff, and another server for FP.
> 
> Glenn
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Strongosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 11:27 AM
> Subject: [ActiveDir] What Services/Server's can be combined with 
> Active Directory.
> 
> 
> > In our planning group we are having a discussion on what 
> > server's/services do we need to combine or can combine for our AD 
> > deployment. I have looked thru allot of Technote's there is not one 
> > definitive answer. Can anyone point me to a source or
> answer this for me.
> >
> > We are thinking of combing: DC,dns and gc's on a server, file and 
> > print
> and
> > dhcp on another in our sites or DC, dns, gc on a server, file and 
> > print on
> a
> > server and dhcp by itself.
> >
> >
> > john
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