ROTFLMAO!

-rtk 


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I'm guessing you don't have that many left? ;) <G,D & R>

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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] What Services/Server's can be combined with 
> Activ e Directory.
> 
> 
> Sure, Roger.  Go ahead - split hairs! 
> 
> ;-)
> 
> -rtk
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger 
> Seielstad
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 6:36 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> 
> You are correct, but realistically a DDNS setup requires DNS and DCs 
> to coexist, I'd expect that to be the much more likely scenario.
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:34 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] What Services/Server's can be combined with 
> > Active Directory.
> > 
> > 
> > Missy,
> > 
> > Doesn't this only apply when a DNS is also present on the DC?
> >  Combining the DNS and DHCP services can cause a security
> issue as you
> > noted.  But, if I combine DC services and DNS services, the
> compromise
> > is not possible.  Also, if I combine DHCP and DC functionality, I'm 
> > still secure - true?
> > 
> > Good to have you here!
> > 
> > Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
> > Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
> > Associate Expert
> > Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Missy 
> > Koslosky
> > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:18 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > Glenn,
> > 
> > I'd want to keep DHCP off my DC's to avoid name hijacking.
> > See http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q255134
> > 
> > Hope all is well with you!
> > 
> > Missy Koslosky
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Glenn Corbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 5:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] What Services/Server's can be combined with 
> > Active Directory.
> > 
> > 
> > John,
> > 
> > The reason why you havent really been able to find a source, is that 
> > the answer is "it depends".
> > 
> > Depending on the size of your sites, the amount of data, number of 
> > clients, other applications using DC services etc, you can
> really have
> > a single server that does DC, GC, DNS, WINS, DHCP, FP.  I really 
> > wouldn't worry about putting DHCP on a server by itself,
> the load is
> > so small. Out of all of the infrastructure services, DCHP
> is probably
> > the smallest load.  Client machines get a dhcp address when they 
> > start, and IIRC there are two requests during the lifetime
> of the IP
> > address (one halfway though, and one at the end of the
> lease).  So for
> > a 2 week lease timeout, you have essentially
> > 3 requests to a DHCP server which is nothing to really worry about.
> > 
> > I recently did some AD design work where small sites (up to about 30
> > uers) had a single server (Dual PIII 2+Ghz) ran all the functions 
> > listed previously, plus Exchange with no real trouble.  For larger 
> > sites, my suggestion would be one "infrastructure server" (DC, GC, 
> > WINS, DHCP, DNS), and "application server(s)" (File Print, Exchange 
> > etc).
> > 
> > As long as you design your AD site topology correctly (so that 
> > replication is optimised, and GC placement is relevant for your 
> > clients), AD can pretty much co-exist with most things, its
> a question
> > of network bandwidth and load on the server.  Other Databases (like 
> > Exchange, SQL, Oracle) are really the main applications you
> need to be
> > careful with when putting on the same server as AD, because
> they can
> > cramp each others style (Exchange and SQL on the same box
> for example
> > is very touchy).
> > 
> > If you are thinking or layering other applications onto an
> AD DC, just
> > have a read of the requirements.  In a lot of cases MS "force" you 
> > down a particular path. For example, SUS (System Update
> Services), and
> > MOM (Microsoft Ops Manager) wont run on DC's, so you are
> forced to put
> > in an additional server to run these.
> > 
> > so, as for your original question *grin*, I would have one
> server that
> > does the "infrastructure" stuff, and another server for FP.
> > 
> > Glenn
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Strongosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 11:27 AM
> > Subject: [ActiveDir] What Services/Server's can be combined with 
> > Active Directory.
> > 
> > 
> > > In our planning group we are having a discussion on what 
> > > server's/services do we need to combine or can combine for our AD 
> > > deployment. I have looked thru allot of Technote's there
> is not one
> > > definitive answer. Can anyone point me to a source or
> > answer this for me.
> > >
> > > We are thinking of combing: DC,dns and gc's on a server, file and 
> > > print
> > and
> > > dhcp on another in our sites or DC, dns, gc on a server, file and 
> > > print on
> > a
> > > server and dhcp by itself.
> > >
> > >
> > > john
> > >
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