Besides being a CYW[1], I'm fortunate to have a very thick head of hair. I'm
fairly sure the head beneath the hair is also thick, at least that's what my
wife says.

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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.

[1] Checky Young Whippersnapper[2]
[2] According to JRH, at least


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] What Services/Server's can be 
> combined with Activ e Directory.
> 
> 
> ROTFLMAO!
> 
> -rtk 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Roger Seielstad
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:10 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> 
> I'm guessing you don't have that many left? ;) <G,D & R>
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:20 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] What Services/Server's can be combined with
> > Activ e Directory.
> > 
> > 
> > Sure, Roger.  Go ahead - split hairs!
> > 
> > ;-)
> > 
> > -rtk
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger
> > Seielstad
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 6:36 AM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > 
> > You are correct, but realistically a DDNS setup requires DNS and DCs
> > to coexist, I'd expect that to be the much more likely scenario.
> > 
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis Inc.
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:34 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] What Services/Server's can be 
> combined with
> > > Active Directory.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Missy,
> > > 
> > > Doesn't this only apply when a DNS is also present on the DC?  
> > > Combining the DNS and DHCP services can cause a security
> > issue as you
> > > noted.  But, if I combine DC services and DNS services, the
> > compromise
> > > is not possible.  Also, if I combine DHCP and DC 
> functionality, I'm
> > > still secure - true?
> > > 
> > > Good to have you here!
> > > 
> > > Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
> > > Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
> > > Associate Expert
> > > Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Missy
> > > Koslosky
> > > Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:18 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > Glenn,
> > > 
> > > I'd want to keep DHCP off my DC's to avoid name hijacking. See 
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q255134
> > > 
> > > Hope all is well with you!
> > > 
> > > Missy Koslosky
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Glenn Corbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 5:33 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] What Services/Server's can be 
> combined with
> > > Active Directory.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > John,
> > > 
> > > The reason why you havent really been able to find a 
> source, is that
> > > the answer is "it depends".
> > > 
> > > Depending on the size of your sites, the amount of data, number of
> > > clients, other applications using DC services etc, you can
> > really have
> > > a single server that does DC, GC, DNS, WINS, DHCP, FP.  I really
> > > wouldn't worry about putting DHCP on a server by itself,
> > the load is
> > > so small. Out of all of the infrastructure services, DCHP
> > is probably
> > > the smallest load.  Client machines get a dhcp address when they
> > > start, and IIRC there are two requests during the lifetime
> > of the IP
> > > address (one halfway though, and one at the end of the
> > lease).  So for
> > > a 2 week lease timeout, you have essentially
> > > 3 requests to a DHCP server which is nothing to really 
> worry about.
> > > 
> > > I recently did some AD design work where small sites (up 
> to about 30
> > > uers) had a single server (Dual PIII 2+Ghz) ran all the functions
> > > listed previously, plus Exchange with no real trouble.  
> For larger 
> > > sites, my suggestion would be one "infrastructure server" 
> (DC, GC, 
> > > WINS, DHCP, DNS), and "application server(s)" (File 
> Print, Exchange 
> > > etc).
> > > 
> > > As long as you design your AD site topology correctly (so that
> > > replication is optimised, and GC placement is relevant for your 
> > > clients), AD can pretty much co-exist with most things, its
> > a question
> > > of network bandwidth and load on the server.  Other 
> Databases (like
> > > Exchange, SQL, Oracle) are really the main applications you
> > need to be
> > > careful with when putting on the same server as AD, because
> > they can
> > > cramp each others style (Exchange and SQL on the same box
> > for example
> > > is very touchy).
> > > 
> > > If you are thinking or layering other applications onto an
> > AD DC, just
> > > have a read of the requirements.  In a lot of cases MS "force" you
> > > down a particular path. For example, SUS (System Update
> > Services), and
> > > MOM (Microsoft Ops Manager) wont run on DC's, so you are
> > forced to put
> > > in an additional server to run these.
> > > 
> > > so, as for your original question *grin*, I would have one
> > server that
> > > does the "infrastructure" stuff, and another server for FP.
> > > 
> > > Glenn
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John Strongosky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 11:27 AM
> > > Subject: [ActiveDir] What Services/Server's can be combined with
> > > Active Directory.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > In our planning group we are having a discussion on what
> > > > server's/services do we need to combine or can combine 
> for our AD 
> > > > deployment. I have looked thru allot of Technote's there
> > is not one
> > > > definitive answer. Can anyone point me to a source or
> > > answer this for me.
> > > >
> > > > We are thinking of combing: DC,dns and gc's on a 
> server, file and
> > > > print
> > > and
> > > > dhcp on another in our sites or DC, dns, gc on a 
> server, file and
> > > > print on
> > > a
> > > > server and dhcp by itself.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > john
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