Neither I nor my company considers that an acceptable risk - and we are 24x7 in some areas.
I've got to babysit the process, but I would want to do that anyway for the critical servers. Roger -------------------------------------------------------------- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Henderson Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 10:17 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > I completely agree with the change management process, > however we are not a > 24x7 environment & do not have after hours or weekend shifts. > At the same > time we cannot take the servers offline during the day so > that leaves the > weekend, & coming in on the weekend to approve updates & ensure smooth > multiple server reboots is a bit dull....So unattended > scheduled updates & > reboots is the option providing the risks are accepted, i.e. > no service > Monday morning because all the servers have hung. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Adams, Kenneth W (Ken) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 19 September 2003 13:30 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > It's also good if you have a Change Management process that > requires a CM > record be created and approved by a review board before the actual > installation occurs. > > Ken A., MCSA, MCSE > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 7:49 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > That's good if you have a minimal number of servers. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Adams, Kenneth W > (Ken) > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 7:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > I'll be setting up SUS SP updates to servers, only I set my servers to > download and notify, not to automatically install and boot. > I keep control > that way. > > Ken A., MCSA, MCSE > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Henderson Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 7:13 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > As it will only run on W2KSP2+ Clients SMS is still needed > for NT4 Clients. > > But another question, how many here will setup SUS SP > updates to Servers? > i.e 100 servers all being rebooted at 3am Sunday morning ?? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Graham Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 19 September 2003 09:44 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > Have just picked up on this thread of SUS - looks a real winner > > would be glad for the views of the positioning of this > product relative to > SMS ?? > > GT > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Free, Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:44 PM > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > >a complete rollup with every patch released for a particular OS. > > There is actually a current WU beta along those lines... > > If history repeats, it may be available sooner than later > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Crenshaw, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:17 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > You should see a "roll-back/recall" in SUS 2.0. I didn't > hear about the > SP's being available in SUS until this morning when I saw that it was > something that was available to be published, so something or > someone must > have pulled the trigger for this to happen. Being an > Enterprise customer of > Microsoft, they usually go way out of their way to ensure > that we know about > major upcoming changes before going live with them. > > I guess Microsoft is tired of getting slammed with deployment > problems for > SP's. For anyone not using SMS, UpdateExpert, or something > else along those > lines, deploying SP's enterprise wide can be a task within itself. > > It's too bad that Microsoft doesn't offer patches in a two > prong manner. One > being you can just install the one "hotfix" for a particular > problem and the > other would be a complete rollup with every patch released > for a particular > OS. > > Of course, it is easy to say that from a customer side. 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