It sounds really kinda cool, especially if Topaz ever actually ships.

But we already spent the money on the Altiris Inventory solution, so we
probably won't be going to SMS3/SMS2003 anytime soon.

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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 10:15 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now
> 
> 
> Yes, and it still utilizes a "synch" machine that 
> synchronizes with the
> Windows Update site, based on an updated XML file.  The SMS 
> FP also beefs up
> inventory so you can successfully target machines that need specific
> patches.  And, of course, SMS has the reporting features so 
> you can see
> where distributions were successful and where they failed.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Roger Seielstad
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 10:05 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now
> 
> Right - but the feature pack's sole purpose in life is to 
> automate building
> the packages for SMS to then deploy. At least that's how I read it.
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:29 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now
> > 
> > 
> > It uses SUS-type functionality, but the code-bases are completely 
> > different.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger 
> > Seielstad
> > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:24 AM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now
> > 
> > Two separate products entirely - but there is an SUS 
> feature pack for 
> > SMS, which I believe uses the SUS server to automatically build 
> > packages for separate SMS deployment.
> > 
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis Inc.
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Graham Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 4:44 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Have just picked up on this thread of SUS - looks a real winner
> > > 
> > > would be glad for the views of the positioning of this product 
> > > relative to SMS ??
> > > 
> > > GT
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Free, Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:44 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >a complete rollup with every patch released for a particular OS.
> > > 
> > > There is actually a current WU beta along those lines...
> > > 
> > > If history repeats, it may be available sooner than later
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Crenshaw, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:17 PM
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You should see a "roll-back/recall" in SUS 2.0.  I didn't
> > hear about
> > > the SP's being available in SUS until this morning when I
> > saw that it
> > > was something that was available to be published, so something or 
> > > someone must have pulled the trigger for this to happen.  
> Being an 
> > > Enterprise customer of Microsoft, they usually go way out
> > of their way
> > > to ensure that we know about major upcoming changes before
> > going live
> > > with them.
> > > 
> > > I guess Microsoft is tired of getting slammed with
> > deployment problems
> > > for SP's.  For anyone not using SMS, UpdateExpert, or
> > something else
> > > along those lines, deploying SP's enterprise wide can be a
> > task within
> > > itself.
> > > 
> > > It's too bad that Microsoft doesn't offer patches in a two prong 
> > > manner.
> > > One being you can just install the one "hotfix" for a particular 
> > > problem and the other would be a complete rollup with every patch 
> > > released for a particular OS.
> > > 
> > > Of course, it is easy to say that from a customer side.  I
> > don't have
> > > to write or manage any of the changes; I just have to work
> > with what I
> > > am given.
> > > 
> > > Jason
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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