That's where the rollback testing of the change management process comes into play.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 9:52 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now Even with testing, I'd rather spend 4 hours on a Saturday morning (which is what we did a few weeks ago) updating every server we manage "manually" than just push a button and have the entire datacenter reboot itself automagically. Testing doesn't account for everything in every case - unless you want to enter the realm of analysis paralysis. A former coworker tested NT4 service packs quite literally until the next one was released. Roger -------------------------------------------------------------- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 9:22 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > The approval in the change management process should be before the > update is even deployed -- after testing against applications, > services, infrastructure, rollback, etc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adams, > Kenneth W > (Ken) > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:30 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > It's also good if you have a Change Management process that requires a > CM record be created and approved by a review board before the actual > installation occurs. > > Ken A., MCSA, MCSE > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 7:49 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > That's good if you have a minimal number of servers. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adams, > Kenneth W > (Ken) > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 7:42 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > I'll be setting up SUS SP updates to servers, only I set my servers to > download and notify, not to automatically install and boot. > I keep control > that way. > > Ken A., MCSA, MCSE > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Henderson Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 7:13 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > As it will only run on W2KSP2+ Clients SMS is still needed for NT4 > Clients. > > But another question, how many here will setup SUS SP updates to > Servers? > i.e 100 servers all being rebooted at 3am Sunday morning ?? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Graham Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 19 September 2003 09:44 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > Have just picked up on this thread of SUS - looks a real winner > > would be glad for the views of the positioning of this product > relative to SMS ?? > > GT > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Free, Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:44 PM > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > >a complete rollup with every patch released for a particular OS. > > There is actually a current WU beta along those lines... > > If history repeats, it may be available sooner than later > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Crenshaw, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:17 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SUS does SPs now > > > You should see a "roll-back/recall" in SUS 2.0. I didn't hear about > the SP's being available in SUS until this morning when I saw that it > was something that was available to be published, so something or > someone must have pulled the trigger for this to happen. Being an > Enterprise customer of Microsoft, they usually go way out of their way > to ensure that we know about major upcoming changes before going live > with them. > > I guess Microsoft is tired of getting slammed with deployment problems > for SP's. For anyone not using SMS, UpdateExpert, or something else > along those lines, deploying SP's enterprise wide can be a task within > itself. > > It's too bad that Microsoft doesn't offer patches in a two prong > manner. One being you can just install the one "hotfix" for a > particular problem and the other would be a complete rollup with every > patch released for a particular OS. > > Of course, it is easy to say that from a customer side. 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