I'm an Exchange MVP. We were invited to come up with a list of "why we hate to support SBS" about a month ago for submission to the SBS product team (apparently one of "our" product managers is across the hall from one of "your" product managers). I think we came up with 11 specific items dealing mainly with Exchange/User management and the integration of ISA/RRAS. I'll see if I archived the list.
I think the groups and the mailing lists are gonna be really quiet next week, with little connectivity on campus for us! -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS migration (was SBS Server Question) Amen brother. I wish though you would be more specific though as I just happen to be meeting with some folks next week and would love the inside from big server land. [Please feel free to ping me directly] Our OU structure sucks. We know that. But ...boy ... you ain't ripping my fingers off RWW or my monitoring email. :-) Michael B. Smith wrote: >And that is a real difficulty. > >The wizards should integrate seamlessly. Or the other tools should >integrate seamlessly. Take your pick. > >I've got a couple of hundred client companies, probably 3 or 4 use SBS. >I HATE touching the SBS clients because it's a fair bet there is a >wizard for something that I'm not going to use a wizard for, because I >can use one of my scripts or a native tool and do it quicker. (You can >argue that someone that knows the wizards can do it more quickly with >them -- and that's fine -- but I don't, and shouldn't have to.) > >It's a religious issue. > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, >CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] >Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:19 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS migration (was SBS Server Question) > >Difficulty? > ><cough cough> > >What difficulty? [please feel free to take this offline] the only >difficult issues we have in SBSland is cleaning up the messes from >folks that don't follow the wizards.... > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >>Thanks! This must be SBS Week. Was at a user's group meeting last >> >> >night and the topic came up again. (Main topic was R2) Sounds like >Microsoft is getting the message about the difficulty of working with >SBS. > > >>Al Maurer >>Service Manager, Naming and Authentication Services IT | Information >>Technology Agilent Technologies >>(719) 590-2639; Telnet 590-2639 >>http://activedirectory.it.agilent.com >>---------------------------------------------- >>"Cry 'Havoc!' and let slip the dogs of war" - Anthony, in Julius >> >> >Caesar III i. > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan >>Bradley, >> >> > > > >>CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] >>Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 1:57 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS migration (was SBS Server Question) >> >>Transition pack or www.sbsmigration.com >> >>Transition pack is the best way however lets you keep the Remote web >>workplace and monitoring email even after you break away from SBSland. >> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>OK, since the topic came up: I'm trying to figure out how to migrate >>> >>> >off SBS2003. > > >>>Scenario is a recent acquisition where we want to migrate from >>>company >>> >>> >SBS to corporate AD (standard 2003 domain). Trusts are out. Hack is >both dangerous and illegal. > > >>>MS offers a Transition Pack (for a cost) to upgrade the SBS2003 to >>> >>> >normal AD. Is there any other way? LDIF export? > > >>>Thanks, >>>AL >>> >>>Al Maurer >>>Service Manager, Naming and Authentication Services IT | Information >>>Technology Agilent Technologies >>>(719) 590-2639; Telnet 590-2639 >>>http://activedirectory.it.agilent.com >>>---------------------------------------------- >>>"Cry 'Havoc!' and let slip the dogs of war" - Anthony, in Julius >>> >>> >Caesar III i. > > >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan >>>Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] >>>Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:06 PM >>>To: [email protected] >>>Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS Server Question >>> >>>Nope. No trusts, no forests. We're the spoiled only PDC that must >>>hold all the FSMO roles. We can do some funky stuff with pass >>>through >>> >>> > > > >>>authentication, but no trusts. >>> >>>US versus THEM: >>>http://www.sbslinks.com/Us_v_them.htm >>> >>>In SBS 2000/2003 the 'correct' terminology is Yes, an 'additional >>>domain controller' is supported and not calling it a BDC. >>> >>>Member servers are covered by the SBS cals but last I read in the PUR >>>the additional DC would need server cals. [that's my interpretation >>>anyway but I get a headache reading that doc in the first place] >>> >>>Honestly ...keep in mind that with XPs, they will used cached >>>credentials and you can log into that profile even if the network is >>>down. Now comes the fun... who's doing the DHCP? The recommended way >>>is to have the SBS box to do that...so you still have fun. If the >>>SBS >>> >>> > > > >>>box goes down, I normally have ways around the temporarily failure >>>[and even then I can count on one hand the time my network has been >>> >>> >affected.... > > >>>power mostly, then NICs, then switches, and one harddrive falling off >>>a RAID. Get good equipment [and honestly either reinstall those OEMs >>>and stay away from those preinstalled versions] and we do just fine. >>> >>> >>> >>>Medeiros, Jose wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hi Susan, >>>> >>>>Since we have an SBS MVP on the Active Dir list, let me ask a >>>> >>>> >question. > > >>>>Can I now make an SBS 2003 server a child domain in an AD 2003 >>>> >>>> >forest? > > >>>>Before you ask why, some one asked me this recently at a Linux users >>>> >>>> >group meeting, as his company has several remote offices using SBS 2003. > > >>>>Also on SBS 4.5, one could have a BDC as a backup, can this also be >>>> >>>> >done with a DC or are you " Sh.T out of luck " when a box fails? > > >>>>Jose >>>> >>>> >>>>List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >>>>List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >>>>List archive: >>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > >-- >Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? >http://www.threatcode.com > >List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >List archive: >http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ >List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >List archive: >http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ > > > -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
