> ISA still doesn't have a firewall client that works for one... You noticed that one, did you?
Though I have had pretty good experience in general with Vista on good hardware. If I built a Vista box for KMS only, I would turn off aero and probably disable the sound card and maybe some other stuff (indexing, we could keep going) but then I would have pretty good confidence in the Vista box. At present I think that's the way I'd recommend us doing it, until it'll run on a server of some sort. Fortunately (as has probably been discussed here at length seeing Laura R's affinity for slmgr.vbs :) you can of course "test" on a VL copy for 90 (or is it 120?) days - slmgr.vbs -rearm extends for 30 days, and you can run it either 2 or 3 times (I don't recall which)... Rich ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Milburn MCSE, Microsoft MVP - Directory Services Sr Network Analyst, Field Platform Development Applebee's International, Inc. 4551 W. 107th St Overland Park, KS 66207 913-967-2819 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "I love the smell of red herrings in the morning" - anonymous -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 2:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Vista Activation and KMS I personally am not ready to stick a Vista box as a "Licensing server". ISA still doesn't have a firewall client that works for one... and I've yet to find a a/v that doesn't BSOD my tablet pc or act strangely on another box I built. In fact I'm still using my Technet 'for testing purposes' ones as I'm not ready to play with my VL ones. Activation on the VL ones means "I'm serious to roll"...and quite frankly.. I'm not. I still want to see a more formal support story on Activations in general for folks that aren't TAM supported... YMMV and all that. Laura A. Robinson wrote: > I am not at all talking about solutions that don't exist today. Go to > a Vista machine and take a look at slmgr.vbs. > > Laura > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Tim > Vander Kooi > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:39 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Vista Activation and KMS > > While Laura and yourself make valid points, you are both talking > about solutions that do not exist today. I'm just trying to help > the OP with the problem he is having right now. Getting into the > full licensing overhead of Vista, not to mention LH, could, and > undoubtedly will, take weeks and/or months. > > For right now, at this very moment, using your VL key (and I will > continue to refer to it as a VL key as long as the page on which I > am reading it says " Volume License Product Keys" at the top of > it) for Vista - KMS will allow you to activate your installation > via the web just fine. This is not something I would do for an > entire enterprise, but for your first few test machines on your > production network I would do it. > > Again YMMV, > > Tim > > > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Harvey > Kamangwitz > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:28 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Vista Activation and KMS > > > > If you have any kind of a complex environment, you'll find volume > activation to be very frustrating indeed: > > > > 1. The KMS service can't support more than one key, so if you have > Longhorn VL clients in your environment you have to put up a > second KMS infrastructure for them. > > > > 2. You can't (rather, shouldn't) use autodiscovery If you do have > both LH and Vista. The KMS client can't distinguish between a KMS > with LH and a KMS with Vista, and there's nothing in the client > that says "oh, I hit a KMS but it has the wrong key so try again > immediately" so ~50% of a client's activation attempts will fail. > > > > 3. Autodiscovery isn't practical if you have more than a few > forests that don't trust the forest your KMS is in. All admins of > the untrusted forests must manually register the _vlmcs record in > their forest to find the KMS. > > > > ...the list goes on. (I haven't even mentioned the practical > aspects of volume activation in a lab or firewalled environment.) > It's not a fully-baked solution. > > > > Depending on your environment, it might be easier to scrap the > whole autodiscovery, create a DNS CNAME with a couple of KMS > behind it, stuff the FQDN in the KMS client's registry if you have > a standard build, and fugeddaboutit :-). > > > > > > > > On 12/4/06, *Laura A. Robinson* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > KMS runs on Vista (now), will run on Longhorn when Longhorn is > released, and > will also run on Win2K3 as soon as we finish making the Win2K3 > install. :-) > > Laura > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] On Behalf Of > > Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] > > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:12 PM > > To: [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Vista Activation and KMS > > > > Nope, I've done it web based. At the present time there are > > two kinds of keycodes up on MVLS.. one that wants a KMS, the > > other that will phone home to Redmond automatically. > > > > Have your MVLS folks request the other type of key is my > > understanding how this will work for now. The KMS type won't > > be out until Longhorn. > > > > KMS activations will have to phone home to your servers twice a > year. > > > > Brian Cline wrote: > > > > > > I was testing out the RTM of Vista Enterprise last night > > and noticed I > > > didn't have to enter a key at any point during the install. When > > > Windows tried to activate, it told me there was a DNS error, so I > > > suspected it looks for a local activation server by default. Sure > > > enough, in the DNS cache was a lookup for a nonexistent > > > _vlmcs._tcp.domain.com. Upon further research, it appears > Microsoft > > > has not released KMS yet, and I couldn't find any option to > > activate > > > directly with Microsoft. 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