Julian...sorry for using a broad stroke, but SECAM and PAL are both 
25fps, both 525 lines/50 fields, both horizontal frequency of 
15.625kHz, both vertical frequency of 50 Hz, both video bandwidth of 
5.0MHz, and sound carrier of 5.5MHz. the difference being PAL has a 
color subcarrier of 4.433618 MHz. thank you for response though and 
being in "PAL land" you should know.

JeffH...

as always on top of things!

--- In [email protected], "Jeffery J. Haas" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <<as you've discovered, PAL and NTSC are 2 different braodcast 
formats
> (to include SECAM which is PAL) one thing though is if your original
> material is PAL and you want to make an NTSC clip you need to 
convert
> it to NTSC before editing (and vice-versa NTSC to PAL). if you 
SEARCH>>
> 
> >>SNIP
> ***************************
> 
> RESPONSE
> 
> <<<<Lancer,
> Just to keep the record straight I think it is worth mentioning 
that SECAM
> is most definitely NOT PAL. The two systems code their colour 
signals in
> very different ways.
> 
> Julian>>>>
> 
> Bristol, England (PAL Land)
> 
> ----Ahhh yes I think we went through this before.
> Perry Mitchell (also from UK) explained very eloquently that SECAM
> was now just a "broadcasting" signal format and that the last "true"
> SECAM VTR was probably back in the early days when AMPEX
> 2-inch Quad was the reigning format.
> I suppose that this might also include Bosch 1-inch Type "B"
> as well even though that machine was mostly used for PAL.
> 
> Time for a "refreshing" TV humor break...this is an oldie but a 
goodie:
> 
> ANOTHER EXPLANATION OF TELEVISON STANDARDS ACRONYMS:
> 
> NTSC:
> N-ever T-wice the S-ame C-olor
> 
> PAL:
> P-ay A L-ot
> 
> PAL-M:
> P-ay A L-ot M-ore
> 
> SECAM:
> S-system E-ssentially C-ontrary to anything AM-erican
> 
> And of course, as we all figured out already, the need for an 
incompatible
> system in Europe has always been a political one more than anything 
else.
> After all, PAL is a perfectly fine system and I never did quite 
grasp what 
> advantage
> SECAM had over PAL.
> 
> PHASE ALTERNATE :LINE
> SEQUENTIAL COLEUR AVEC MEMOIRE
> 
> One system stores the color info on every alternate line,
> the other stores the color info "in sequence" via some sort 
of "memory".
> 
> Naturally we in the States were stuck with the oldest system.
> 
> I remember when France switched over from their 817 line monochrome 
standard
> to SECAM. As it was told to me by someone who lived there, the news 
was 
> announced
> one fine sunny day that the television system would be changed and 
that all 
> the current
> sets would no longer work, and that French citizens had something 
on the 
> order of about
> two months to make the switch or be left in the dark.
> 
> Somehow I dont believe that would have gone over well here.
> I figure Americans would have rioted in the streets to keep their 
ancient 
> sets.
> 
> It's amazing to see what can be done with what is essentially 1930's
> technology.
> 
> I think I even heard that first said in this forum or another one 
like it.
> 
> 1930's technology...it fits....and what have we learned since then?
> Well....we've learned that it's possible to develop an entirely new 
and 
> improved
> High Definition television system, and then subject it to the same 
political 
> hacks
> who mucked up all the old ones in the first place.
> 
> And we've learned that everyone will accept the fact that there are 
now
> EIGHTEEN competing Hi-Def systems instead of the former two or 
three SD 
> ones.
> 
> I sometimes wonder if we would have benefitted somehow by doing as 
the 
> French,
> a complete and utter trashing and refitting of the system almost 
overnight.
> Had we that sort of "gumption" or balls, we could have made the 
leap to
> some form of analog HDTV or EDTV a long time ago and the only 
hiccup would 
> have
> been the switch to digital transmission and reception.
> 
> Of course I dont claim to have everything right.....I would love to 
hear the 
> thoughts of
> the other members, most of whom are much more knowledgeable than I.
> I definitely want to find out if my memory of "the French 
Revolution" was 
> accurate.
> I was told about it when I was very young and just learning about 
different 
> TV systems.
> Does anyone remember seeing that old 817 line French system?
> It might have been black and white but 817 lines is almost HDTV 
anyway!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> JeffH
> Ch.S.





 
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