Your welcome Lance... BTW, where do you live at?
About the spot.. I think the casting did muddle it some.. and heck the fight could easily have been race related.. that might have made increased the impact of the message.. Even racial differences were put aside.. blah, blah, blah... About camera unsteadiness as a technique.. I don't like it much either, for the record, and I think its because, as a viewer, it makes me work harder than I'm used to watch whats going on in the frame.. But it does what its suppose to do. -Frank --- In [email protected], "lancer777" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > thanks frank! by the way how are things? we are miles from the areas > hit by katrina, but i believe some refugees are headed for one of our > school district's gymnasiums. almost a good 1,000 miles away but i'm > glad we can help out. > > the funny perhaps ironic thing about the clip...some people think the > beginning confrontation is a racial matter, but in truth both guys are > hispanic. if i had more time the actual confrontation is over the girl ;-) > > --- In [email protected], Frank Mixson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I surprised to see this topic still going, so I thought I'd give it > another look. I was real surprised by the 2 comments listed here... > It's meaning is pretty clear to me.. but who knows, i only have a > GED, so I might have it wrong, lol. > > > > Lets see, on Sept 10, 2001 (when watching something, try to absorb > as much info as possible.. think of the dates on the spots as > 'clues'), two kids got into a fight about something. What were they > fighting about? who cares? Next sequence is the World Trade Center > bombings video being watched by the some kids. The next sequence has > date too, Sept. 12, 2001(hmmmm...... ), and shows the 2 kids from the > first sequence shaking hands, exchanging words, and then heading > toward the US Marines > > recruiting center... Duhhhhh... OK, I'ma apply some GED math to > this.. Two kids fight over something one day, America is attacked the > next day, the following day, the kids put aside their differences and > join the Marines. > > > > > > Hmmm.... looks like a recruiting spot to me. Sometimes when > examining the bark of a tree, some miss the forest entirely. There's > a lot more to the production of video than technical mastery. There > is also the use of symbolism, unfortunately, sometimes it is culture > specific.. A buddhist, might not get the christian symbolism > inherent to western art, and a christian might not get the taoist > references that are in many eastern arts.. I like to watch foreign > movies, for just that reason. I'm surprised that these people didn't > 'get it'. Maybe you had to be here on Sept 11, 2001, to 'get it'. > > > > But hey, what do i know? I don't have any degrees in this stuff.. > but like most americans, I don't need anyones permission or approval > to do it anyway.. Also, unsteady shots are quite the norm, now, at > least here... Think NYPD Blue. The eye is not allowed to rest, > anxiety is increased in the veiwer, and a greater sense of being > 'present' is created in the veiwer. Sounds appropriate for the > sequence of them watching the TV (not sure if it was done > intentionally or not though, in this case, but it can easily be > argued as an artistice choice). > > > > I also think that the viewers in this country are used to it now, > and that any unsteadiness in the camera work in this spot is > overlooked as people try to figure out what it means.. Which is what > you want to do in film anyway.. make the viewer think, and keep > watching until they have figured it out or finally 'got it' . Like I > said, I'm just guessing, I only have a GED, so I could be wrong. And > I've been to movies with people that didn't 'get it'. They unvariably > didn't like the movie. > > > > I had to say all that, Lance, because I got some nasty remarks from > some folks across the pond about my stuff too. Don't worry, I think > it just speaks to the resentment of americans in the rest of the world > right now. Misery loves company. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/T8sf5C/tzNLAA/TtwFAA/ADr1lB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Adobe-Premiere/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
