Thats true. But I would like to count all the years that I was shamefully
ignorant and unrealized like some people on this forum still are . example -
jpEnlightenmentguy

On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Mark Ty-Wharton
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Realisation takes no time...
>
> Not being self realised took you 28 years and maybe a year of that doing
> kundalini and not being realised.
>
> Realisation itself took no time - it simply happened istantaneously.
>
> Sent from an iPhone
>
> On 19 Jun 2010, at 11:09, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Welcome jPEnlightenment.
> Have you ever had kundalini ?
> I have it. Do you know what it means ? It means lifelong nutty behaviour.
> Your bed will shake at night. You will become a recluse. People will think
> you are mental and you would even believe them. :)
>
> Have you experienced Self-realization ?
> I have and it takes a minimum of 1 year to get it (excluding my overall
> life-experience and  maturity of 28 years at the time and maybe genetics and
> previous birth karma which I dont believe).
>
> Do you think I am a spiritual person or a Sufi Dervish ?
> Well, before I started this, I was only interested in fucking chicks and I
> did spend a lot of time trying to pick up girls.
>
> Do you think I do mental-masturbation ?
> I masturbate physically at least once a day because kundalini/Self
> realization for some reason improves health and increases sperm production.
> The mind is perfectly still, blissful and it does not tolerate mental
> activity.
>
> Who are you ?
> You are a ridiculous and pathetic person. Or you must be an
> over-enthusiastic Indian guy which some people call as noob.
> Are you ?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Anandanand < <[email protected]>
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> And welcome jpE
>>
>> On Jun 19, 1:42 pm, Anandanand <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Rediculous discussion boards? What makes you say that? is it due to
>> > the answers/ responses/ replys you got or you thought so even before
>> > asking the question ? Or is there another reason ?
>> >
>> > On Jun 19, 1:13 am, jp EnlightenmentGuy <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > This always happens:
>> >
>> > > I ask an extremely succinct, easy-to-understand, fundamental question
>> > > and I get one of two responses:
>> >
>> > > 1. So called "regular" people look at me like I am dumb as a bag of
>> > > rocks for even asking such a silly question about something so
>> > > obvious. "Nobody thinks about this stuff, what is wrong with you?  You
>> > > need to get out and get LAID already!!!"
>> >
>> > > 2. So called "spiritual" people respond with things that are really
>> > > clear like "Sufi dervishes go Hoo Hooo Hoooo".  Or equally as helpful,
>> > > "So, WHO is asking the question? WHO is it that is confused?
>> > > Whoooo..... Whooooooooo......."  which they repeat a zillion times,
>> > > like I haven't heard that a zillion times before.
>> >
>> > > Will I ever learn? The more I seek answers from others, the more I
>> > > find I am on my own.
>> >
>> > > Those that aren't "on the path" likely never will be -- trying to ask
>> > > them about it, or worse -- trying to get them to join in on it --
>> > > leads to inevitable frustration.  There is nothing for me there. There
>> > > is nothing for me, with 99.9999++% of humanity.
>> >
>> > > And I suspect almost all people who SEEM to be "on the path", those
>> > > who show up at retreats and Satsangs, or worse -- ridiculous
>> > > discussion boards like this -- are just tourists, interested in "this
>> > > stuff", or think its cool, another fun mental-masturbation exercise,
>> > > or this is just another cool spiritual thing they are incorporating
>> > > into their plethora of other neato spiritual  thingeys they are
>> > > sampling. Sure seems that way.  Seems to be nothing for me here,
>> > > either.
>> >
>> > > On my own.
>> >
>> > > Hopefully, finally, DAMMIT, hopefully totally on my own...............
>> >
>> > > On Jun 17, 1:26 pm, jp EnlightenmentGuy <[email protected]
>> >
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> > > > I have heard many spiritual teachers just dismissively say things
>> > > > like,
>> >
>> > > > "You can't be anything that changes, right? You are not the body, or
>> > > > mind, or memories, or personality or whatever."
>> >
>> > > > Really?
>> >
>> > > > I'll bet 99.99%++ of all humans who have ever existed would agree
>> with
>> > > > what is written below. Can you say, clearly, why this is not
>> > > > accurate??
>> >
>> > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>> >
>> > > > Who or what am I?  I am a body, with certain attributes and
>> abilities
>> > > > (physical and mental), born to parents, exposed to things in the
>> > > > environment, having had experiences I have collected memories, and
>> > > > developed beliefs and a personality (with all its many sub-
>> > > > attributes).
>> >
>> > > > If I had been born to different parents (or adopted as an infant),
>> or
>> > > > born at a different time, or born into a different body, or born in
>> a
>> > > > different place, or in a different culture/society, then I would in
>> > > > fact be a different person.
>> >
>> > > > That is what a "person" is -- a unique, ever-changing, body/mind/
>> > > > personality, that is born, lives for a while, then dies.
>> >
>> > > > That is what I am.
>> >
>> > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>> >
>> > > > How clear can you be in pointing out how, exactly, this is
>> inaccurate?
>> >
>> > > > Thank you!
>>
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