and add Vijaya to that. On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 12:56 PM, roomsearching <[email protected]>wrote:
> Thats true. But I would like to count all the years that I was shamefully > ignorant and unrealized like some people on this forum still are . example - > jpEnlightenmentguy > > > On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Mark Ty-Wharton < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Realisation takes no time... >> >> Not being self realised took you 28 years and maybe a year of that doing >> kundalini and not being realised. >> >> Realisation itself took no time - it simply happened istantaneously. >> >> Sent from an iPhone >> >> On 19 Jun 2010, at 11:09, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Welcome jPEnlightenment. >> Have you ever had kundalini ? >> I have it. Do you know what it means ? It means lifelong nutty behaviour. >> Your bed will shake at night. You will become a recluse. People will think >> you are mental and you would even believe them. :) >> >> Have you experienced Self-realization ? >> I have and it takes a minimum of 1 year to get it (excluding my overall >> life-experience and maturity of 28 years at the time and maybe genetics and >> previous birth karma which I dont believe). >> >> Do you think I am a spiritual person or a Sufi Dervish ? >> Well, before I started this, I was only interested in fucking chicks and I >> did spend a lot of time trying to pick up girls. >> >> Do you think I do mental-masturbation ? >> I masturbate physically at least once a day because kundalini/Self >> realization for some reason improves health and increases sperm production. >> The mind is perfectly still, blissful and it does not tolerate mental >> activity. >> >> Who are you ? >> You are a ridiculous and pathetic person. Or you must be an >> over-enthusiastic Indian guy which some people call as noob. >> Are you ? >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Anandanand < <[email protected]> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> And welcome jpE >>> >>> On Jun 19, 1:42 pm, Anandanand <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Rediculous discussion boards? What makes you say that? is it due to >>> > the answers/ responses/ replys you got or you thought so even before >>> > asking the question ? Or is there another reason ? >>> > >>> > On Jun 19, 1:13 am, jp EnlightenmentGuy <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > > This always happens: >>> > >>> > > I ask an extremely succinct, easy-to-understand, fundamental question >>> > > and I get one of two responses: >>> > >>> > > 1. So called "regular" people look at me like I am dumb as a bag of >>> > > rocks for even asking such a silly question about something so >>> > > obvious. "Nobody thinks about this stuff, what is wrong with you? >>> You >>> > > need to get out and get LAID already!!!" >>> > >>> > > 2. So called "spiritual" people respond with things that are really >>> > > clear like "Sufi dervishes go Hoo Hooo Hoooo". Or equally as >>> helpful, >>> > > "So, WHO is asking the question? WHO is it that is confused? >>> > > Whoooo..... Whooooooooo......." which they repeat a zillion times, >>> > > like I haven't heard that a zillion times before. >>> > >>> > > Will I ever learn? The more I seek answers from others, the more I >>> > > find I am on my own. >>> > >>> > > Those that aren't "on the path" likely never will be -- trying to ask >>> > > them about it, or worse -- trying to get them to join in on it -- >>> > > leads to inevitable frustration. There is nothing for me there. >>> There >>> > > is nothing for me, with 99.9999++% of humanity. >>> > >>> > > And I suspect almost all people who SEEM to be "on the path", those >>> > > who show up at retreats and Satsangs, or worse -- ridiculous >>> > > discussion boards like this -- are just tourists, interested in "this >>> > > stuff", or think its cool, another fun mental-masturbation exercise, >>> > > or this is just another cool spiritual thing they are incorporating >>> > > into their plethora of other neato spiritual thingeys they are >>> > > sampling. Sure seems that way. Seems to be nothing for me here, >>> > > either. >>> > >>> > > On my own. >>> > >>> > > Hopefully, finally, DAMMIT, hopefully totally on my >>> own............... >>> > >>> > > On Jun 17, 1:26 pm, jp EnlightenmentGuy < >>> [email protected]> >>> > > wrote: >>> > >>> > > > I have heard many spiritual teachers just dismissively say things >>> > > > like, >>> > >>> > > > "You can't be anything that changes, right? You are not the body, >>> or >>> > > > mind, or memories, or personality or whatever." >>> > >>> > > > Really? >>> > >>> > > > I'll bet 99.99%++ of all humans who have ever existed would agree >>> with >>> > > > what is written below. Can you say, clearly, why this is not >>> > > > accurate?? >>> > >>> > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >>> > >>> > > > Who or what am I? I am a body, with certain attributes and >>> abilities >>> > > > (physical and mental), born to parents, exposed to things in the >>> > > > environment, having had experiences I have collected memories, and >>> > > > developed beliefs and a personality (with all its many sub- >>> > > > attributes). >>> > >>> > > > If I had been born to different parents (or adopted as an infant), >>> or >>> > > > born at a different time, or born into a different body, or born in >>> a >>> > > > different place, or in a different culture/society, then I would in >>> > > > fact be a different person. >>> > >>> > > > That is what a "person" is -- a unique, ever-changing, body/mind/ >>> > > > personality, that is born, lives for a while, then dies. >>> > >>> > > > That is what I am. >>> > >>> > > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . >>> > >>> > > > How clear can you be in pointing out how, exactly, this is >>> inaccurate? >>> > >>> > > > Thank you! >>> >> >> >
