How can anyone be conceptually enlightened?
Enlightenment is a meaning we give to an apparent awakening of
awareness from nothing. Enlightenment already is a concept. It is not
real and it doesn't happen to anyone.
So how can you have a conceptual concept.
Even in a book?
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On 22 Jun 2010, at 04:35, godszen <[email protected]> wrote:
You've been ready too many books
you're conceptually enlightened
On Jun 21, 3:37 am, jp EnlightenmentGuy <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Jun 20, 5:56 pm, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote:
If you are quoting Wayne Liquorman why are you asking such
simplistic
questions here?
Seems like this is how it often goes.
Here, there was a lifting of the veil, an opening, clear seeing,
Enlightenment. For a time.
Then it seemingly went away.
Then... DAMNATION. The pendulum swung all the way the other way.
A well-known process.
This part sometimes called The Dark Night of the Soul -- Saint John
of
the Cross feeling abandoned by God.
Or in the Zen 10 Ox Hearding Pictures, probably 2 and 3 and 4
unfolding simultaneously, sometimes seemingly progressing, sometimes
reverting all the way back to the beginning.
I guess I was hoping somewhere in a group of people actually calling
itself Advaita Zen there would be some who were familiar with this
process, perhaps had even been through it, and could guide.
Spectacularly difficult to find a wise and skillful teacher.
SEIZING THE OX
You have exhausted all your faculties to take hold of him.
Because his spirit is strong and his strength abundant,
it is difficult to rid him of his habits.
Sometimes he goes to the top of the high plain.
Other times he resides in clouds and smoke.
