.

Sure that  "I am"   Yes,   very sure.

What else should I need ????

What use is fear or doubt of our ability to declare  "I am"

It's real .............

.

On 30 June, 14:58, jp EnlightenmentGuy <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Jun 30, 9:13 am, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Yes .............  but not quite.
>
> > This scientific fact does not include conscious awareness.
>
> > Because conscious awareness remains ineffable to science.
> > Yet we all clearly enjoy its reality.
>
> I think you are talking about the Mind-Body 
> Dichotomy:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind-body_problem
>
> This is the BELIEF that there is something super-special, woo-woo,
> humans are not just animals, we are special, I have free will, there
> is "something" about a person that makes it different from all other
> things in the universe, Man was created in God's image, etc, etc.
>
> Why was Galileo imprisoned? Because he committed heresy. What was the
> horrible, blasphemous thingy he suggested? That the Earth is NOT the
> center of the universe. BLASPHEMY!
>
> When a human-thing suggests that there is NOTHING special about humans
> at all, that is BLASPHEMOUS!
>
> Same thing. (challenging the BELIEF that humans are NOT the center of
> the universe!)
>
> You say that we all CLEARLY enjoy an ineffable conscious awareness.
>
> That is CLEAR, isn't it?
>
> That is THE ENTIRE POINT OF SPIRITUALITY:  To question the most
> fundamental assumption about yourself, and actually, totally,
> completely, come to a conclusion. To KNOW, most definitely not to
> BELIEVE.
>
> There is a belief in the mind of almost every human that has ever
> lived that it is self-aware, autonomous, has free will, etc, etc.
> There is a belief in almost every mind that a human *exists*.
>
> That is the most fundamental assumption. That IS the sense-of-self.
> That "I" exist.
>
> And that is what all spirituality is guiding 'you' to examine -- is
> this "I" that I think I am really real?
>
> Are you sure?

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