On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:06 PM, jp EnlightenmentGuy < [email protected]> wrote:
> On Jun 30, 10:22 am, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sure that "I am" Yes, very sure. > > This is not a problem, but that is the opposite of Enlightenment. > > Having a sense-of-self makes you just like almost every person who has > ever lived. > > An "Enlightened person" (even though there is no such thing) is one in > whom the sense-of-self has been seen through, and is gone (well, > almost entirely). > > This is what self-realization is. Nope. Self realization is the absence of all "This is what SR is blah blah ".... .....AND..... the absence of even this absential assertion. > That is what "transcending the ego" > means (although that is pretty clumsy). That is what "become one with > all" means -- when "you" are no more, then there is never again "I see > that", there is only THAT. That is why the Indian dude Nisargadatta > Maharaj had a book called I AM THAT (not a perfect pointing, but > pretty close). > > This is what The Buddha realized, what Jesus realized, what Adyashanti > realized, and many (but certainly not all) of the modern teachers. > > This is the purpose of Zen -- to get students to realize. > > And this is what Advaita teaches, what the Upanishads teach, and what > the Bhagavad Gita teaches. > > This is presumably the reason for an Advaita Zen discussion board: for > a human to see that there is, in Reality, no Self, no ego, no Mini-Me > hiding out inside pulling the strings. No autonomous entity. No entity > at all. > > What beautiful and utterly..................nonsensical , borrowed ..........baloney.
