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I totally agree and totally adore the truth of ::: “Self realization is the absence of all” Yet .......... Such is the true nature of reality. But with all due respect you/me/us live here now. We must. We exist as the impossible dream. In this moment while I type these words. The fundamental laws of nature allow these words to appear. Circumstance allows you to read them. The universe is not a nothing. Self realisation is the presents of all. No separation. Whole. . On 1 July, 03:21, Kuber Technologies <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:06 PM, jp EnlightenmentGuy < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > On Jun 30, 10:22 am, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sure that "I am" Yes, very sure. > > > This is not a problem, but that is the opposite of Enlightenment. > > > Having a sense-of-self makes you just like almost every person who has > > ever lived. > > > An "Enlightened person" (even though there is no such thing) is one in > > whom the sense-of-self has been seen through, and is gone (well, > > almost entirely). > > > This is what self-realization is. > > Nope. > > Self realization is the absence of all "This is what SR is blah blah ".... > > .....AND..... the absence of even this absential assertion. > > > > > > > That is what "transcending the ego" > > means (although that is pretty clumsy). That is what "become one with > > all" means -- when "you" are no more, then there is never again "I see > > that", there is only THAT. That is why the Indian dude Nisargadatta > > Maharaj had a book called I AM THAT (not a perfect pointing, but > > pretty close). > > > This is what The Buddha realized, what Jesus realized, what Adyashanti > > realized, and many (but certainly not all) of the modern teachers. > > > This is the purpose of Zen -- to get students to realize. > > > And this is what Advaita teaches, what the Upanishads teach, and what > > the Bhagavad Gita teaches. > > > This is presumably the reason for an Advaita Zen discussion board: for > > a human to see that there is, in Reality, no Self, no ego, no Mini-Me > > hiding out inside pulling the strings. No autonomous entity. No entity > > at all. > > What beautiful and utterly..................nonsensical , borrowed > ..........baloney.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
