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-----Original Message----- From: roomsearching <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:50:24 To: Mark Ty-Wharton<[email protected]> Cc: [email protected]<[email protected]> Subject: Re: tinnitus Unless you find the source of the Self, just knowing that you are awareness is not yet Self-realization. It is only partial. To complete the process, you have to find the source. When the source is found, the person will never be able to arise again. On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]>wrote: > The point you are missing RS is that self-realisation doesn't happen to > anyone > > YOU cannot be self realised - nobody can - the realisation is the > recognition that YOU made YOU up > > Then YOU simply disappear, fall away, in the arising awareness > > But YOU are not the awareness > > Awareness just IS > > Realisation just IS > > Nothing happens to a person > > The PERSON arises again in the awareness > > But if the PERSON now claims to be self-realised, then enlightenment is > again lost. > > Take a step back into yourself and question the questioner > > Who is it that is self realised? > > If you see what there is to be seen there will be an understanding of the > apparent ridicule showing up in this group. > > Hope that helps. > > Now choose... > > Aha? > > Or? > > > On 22 July 2010 12:01, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Of course, I am facing that anger from many people here. In fact two >> strangers by the name Vijaya and some other idiot (who I called Indian >> cunts) >> jumped on me and started giving me lectures telling me I have a mental >> problem. This happened exactly at the moment I made the mistake of telling >> everybody here that I am self-realized. Besides, I am facing another failure >> of a person called Sandeep often ridiculing my experiences. I think most >> people think that realization happens to only famous people. And even famous >> people are being slagged off(Osho or UG) as fake, why should I expect >> someone to believe my story ? >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Mark Ty-Wharton < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I used to be vehemently angry about life and people like you would push >>> all my buttons and I would react. >>> >>> Let's get this straight. >>> >>> I have a long way to go to be in PERMANENT bliss and yet... >>> >>> When people post in such a way as to rub against my fragile ego, I feel >>> no need to react. >>> >>> The level of bliss I carry and or my current level of dissociation or >>> separation from ego is perhaps enough there is a realisation this rubbing up >>> against my beliefs about the way things should be is not happening to a "me" >>> it is simply happening and the "me" reacts and is mostly ignored. >>> >>> A "person" trying to be in bliss would almost certainly get annoyed and >>> lash out against those upsetting his equilibrium. >>> >>> When you give up the pretence of self realisation and the counter >>> pretence of anger, name calling and self righteousness, you can throw away >>> the books you cling to! >>> >>> Sent from an iPhone >>> >>> On 22 Jul 2010, at 05:45, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> All the physical symptoms are of Kundalini, so there is no question of >>> going to a hospital with Kundalini.I understand that you are some bastard >>> who has no respect for the word "Kundalini" when so many people are having >>> genuine experiences of it. >>> >>> There is a difference between the belief "I am self-realized" and the >>> fact that "I am self-realized". >>> If you fell down from a tree, you may not believe it ................or >>> you just know it happened. >>> It is not a belief, it is true knowledge. It is true knowing. It is so >>> strong that it can change your life of inconsistencies into a permanent >>> blissful and absolutely still and always in the moment - which cannot happen >>> with a belief. >>> You can just say that you do want to believe that it did not happen to >>> me. So why such a strong belief ? >>> >>> Psylium may be good for you which is your personal belief. >>> But your doctor's prescriptions may not necessarily be applicable to >>> everyone. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 4:12 AM, Kuber Technologies >>> <<[email protected]> >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:30 AM, roomsearching <<[email protected]> >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> There are some physical signs and symptoms which have manifested in my >>>>> case. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If that is so, the urgent and serious( you are big on seriousness isn't >>>> it) ... >>>> >>>> ...need to visit a hospital, specially the psychiatric ward. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> All the signs agree with the literature and I have confirmed them after >>>>> almost an year of research. >>>>> I finally realized that I am self-realized after one year of >>>>> clarification. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The sense of investment in an identity. >>>> >>>> Just a little intelligence can see that there is no difference between >>>> the belief I am Joe-the-plumber and the belief I am self realized. >>>> >>>> At least Joe silently carries on plumbing. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Sometimes people get self-realized but they do not even know it. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> People do not get self-realized. >>>> >>>> Whether there is a ranting about it or the advent of a total >>>> silence..... >>>> >>>> ....silence itself apperceiving that in the absence of the other... >>>> >>>> ...to whom is a proclamation, any proclamation ........to be addressed >>>> to. >>>> >>>> The apperceiving that without a need of a proclamation to be delivered >>>> to.......can there ever be a loci of such a proclamation to rest upon.. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> In your case you come here and write your stupid essays which show your >>>>> mangled and mutilated mindset. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Opinion noted. >>>> >>>> >>>>> All you can say is that I should go to a doctor. >>>>> Obviously you have no idea what the whole game is about. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The whole game is a wholesome idea. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> So get the basics right before you write something about Advaita. >>>>> >>>> You might sound like someone who knows what non-duality is. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> But the problem is, you are a still a fucking idiot whose consciousness >>>>> is still stuck in the basal chakra of the asshole. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Again a little, a tiny weeny amount of intelligence could have seen an >>>> asshole is a hole. >>>> >>>> The Mooldhara Chakra is located at the base of the spine. >>>> >>>> >>>> But then maybe a case of chronic constipation could be the cause of all >>>> the symptoms on which you have bee researching for a year. >>>> >>>> Try the natural laxative......Psyllium husk, one teaspoon first thing >>>> every morning >>>> >>>> It's great in clearing up all passages, of all ideations and symptoms. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> So first raise your awareness to a higher level which requires >>>>> seriousness. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Naaaah. >>>> >>>> The patent on idiocy is with RS. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>
