Okay, willing to try your method. Give me specific instructions say ten steps - how to sit - what to say - where to look?
I disagree that the person disappears forever, then again I would an experience of enlightenment happened in my car there was bliss it was a bit boring, like taking heroin lasted hours got annoying I (or should I say annoyance and frustration) came back Bliss is available And... On 22 July 2010 14:14, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > All experience arises because of your consciousness which perceives > everything around you. > So consciousness comes out of its source, gives life to the sense organs > and enjoys the world of sensory experiences. > In reality there is only you and all experiences are only your experiences. > > All that you have ever known is only your own memory and perception > recorded in your brain. > There are no others. There is only you. > And that you is powered by consciousness which arises from the source. > To find the source, you have to do Self Enquiry. > When you find the source, all that you are looking for in the world becomes > meaningless. > Because all that you are searching for is only your source because of the > wholeness and bliss which it is. > All the laws, morals, religions, history, science in your brain is only > useless because it is all powered by consciousness. > It arises from a hole in your chest. Find it! > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:54 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> How can the source of all experience be experienced? >> >> Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone >> ------------------------------ >> *From: * roomsearching <[email protected]> >> *Sender: * [email protected] >> *Date: *Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:50:24 +0100 >> *To: *Mark Ty-Wharton<[email protected]> >> *Cc: *[email protected]<[email protected]> >> *Subject: *Re: tinnitus >> >> Unless you find the source of the Self, just knowing that you are >> awareness is not yet Self-realization. >> It is only partial. >> To complete the process, you have to find the source. >> When the source is found, the person will never be able to arise again. >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Mark Ty-Wharton < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> The point you are missing RS is that self-realisation doesn't happen to >>> anyone >>> >>> YOU cannot be self realised - nobody can - the realisation is the >>> recognition that YOU made YOU up >>> >>> Then YOU simply disappear, fall away, in the arising awareness >>> >>> But YOU are not the awareness >>> >>> Awareness just IS >>> >>> Realisation just IS >>> >>> Nothing happens to a person >>> >>> The PERSON arises again in the awareness >>> >>> But if the PERSON now claims to be self-realised, then enlightenment is >>> again lost. >>> >>> Take a step back into yourself and question the questioner >>> >>> Who is it that is self realised? >>> >>> If you see what there is to be seen there will be an understanding of the >>> apparent ridicule showing up in this group. >>> >>> Hope that helps. >>> >>> Now choose... >>> >>> Aha? >>> >>> Or? >>> >>> >>> On 22 July 2010 12:01, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Of course, I am facing that anger from many people here. In fact two >>>> strangers by the name Vijaya and some other idiot (who I called Indian >>>> cunts) >>>> jumped on me and started giving me lectures telling me I have a mental >>>> problem. This happened exactly at the moment I made the mistake of telling >>>> everybody here that I am self-realized. Besides, I am facing another >>>> failure >>>> of a person called Sandeep often ridiculing my experiences. I think most >>>> people think that realization happens to only famous people. And even >>>> famous >>>> people are being slagged off(Osho or UG) as fake, why should I expect >>>> someone to believe my story ? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Mark Ty-Wharton < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I used to be vehemently angry about life and people like you would push >>>>> all my buttons and I would react. >>>>> >>>>> Let's get this straight. >>>>> >>>>> I have a long way to go to be in PERMANENT bliss and yet... >>>>> >>>>> When people post in such a way as to rub against my fragile ego, I feel >>>>> no need to react. >>>>> >>>>> The level of bliss I carry and or my current level of dissociation or >>>>> separation from ego is perhaps enough there is a realisation this rubbing >>>>> up >>>>> against my beliefs about the way things should be is not happening to a >>>>> "me" >>>>> it is simply happening and the "me" reacts and is mostly ignored. >>>>> >>>>> A "person" trying to be in bliss would almost certainly get annoyed and >>>>> lash out against those upsetting his equilibrium. >>>>> >>>>> When you give up the pretence of self realisation and the counter >>>>> pretence of anger, name calling and self righteousness, you can throw away >>>>> the books you cling to! >>>>> >>>>> Sent from an iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On 22 Jul 2010, at 05:45, roomsearching <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> All the physical symptoms are of Kundalini, so there is no question of >>>>> going to a hospital with Kundalini.I understand that you are some bastard >>>>> who has no respect for the word "Kundalini" when so many people are having >>>>> genuine experiences of it. >>>>> >>>>> There is a difference between the belief "I am self-realized" and the >>>>> fact that "I am self-realized". >>>>> If you fell down from a tree, you may not believe it ................or >>>>> you just know it happened. >>>>> It is not a belief, it is true knowledge. It is true knowing. It is so >>>>> strong that it can change your life of inconsistencies into a permanent >>>>> blissful and absolutely still and always in the moment - which cannot >>>>> happen >>>>> with a belief. >>>>> You can just say that you do want to believe that it did not happen to >>>>> me. So why such a strong belief ? >>>>> >>>>> Psylium may be good for you which is your personal belief. >>>>> But your doctor's prescriptions may not necessarily be applicable to >>>>> everyone. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 4:12 AM, Kuber Technologies >>>>> <<[email protected]> >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:30 AM, roomsearching <<[email protected]> >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> There are some physical signs and symptoms which have manifested in my >>>>>>> case. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If that is so, the urgent and serious( you are big on seriousness >>>>>> isn't it) ... >>>>>> >>>>>> ...need to visit a hospital, specially the psychiatric ward. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> All the signs agree with the literature and I have confirmed them >>>>>>> after almost an year of research. >>>>>>> I finally realized that I am self-realized after one year of >>>>>>> clarification. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The sense of investment in an identity. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just a little intelligence can see that there is no difference between >>>>>> the belief I am Joe-the-plumber and the belief I am self realized. >>>>>> >>>>>> At least Joe silently carries on plumbing. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sometimes people get self-realized but they do not even know it. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> People do not get self-realized. >>>>>> >>>>>> Whether there is a ranting about it or the advent of a total >>>>>> silence..... >>>>>> >>>>>> ....silence itself apperceiving that in the absence of the other... >>>>>> >>>>>> ...to whom is a proclamation, any proclamation ........to be addressed >>>>>> to. >>>>>> >>>>>> The apperceiving that without a need of a proclamation to be delivered >>>>>> to.......can there ever be a loci of such a proclamation to rest upon.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> In your case you come here and write your stupid essays which show >>>>>>> your mangled and mutilated mindset. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Opinion noted. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> All you can say is that I should go to a doctor. >>>>>>> Obviously you have no idea what the whole game is about. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The whole game is a wholesome idea. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> So get the basics right before you write something about Advaita. >>>>>>> >>>>>> You might sound like someone who knows what non-duality is. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> But the problem is, you are a still a fucking idiot whose >>>>>>> consciousness is still stuck in the basal chakra of the asshole. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Again a little, a tiny weeny amount of intelligence could have seen an >>>>>> asshole is a hole. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mooldhara Chakra is located at the base of the spine. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> But then maybe a case of chronic constipation could be the cause of >>>>>> all the symptoms on which you have bee researching for a year. >>>>>> >>>>>> Try the natural laxative......Psyllium husk, one teaspoon first thing >>>>>> every morning >>>>>> >>>>>> It's great in clearing up all passages, of all ideations and symptoms. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> So first raise your awareness to a higher level which requires >>>>>>> seriousness. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Naaaah. >>>>>> >>>>>> The patent on idiocy is with RS. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>
