Ok, I've found it. Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone -----Original Message----- From: roomsearching <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:12:17 To: <[email protected]> Cc: Mark Ty-Wharton<[email protected]>; Advaita<[email protected]> Subject: Re: tinnitus
No, it is not. Try for a few days. Don't post until you find it. On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 5:11 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > I can't find it, where is it? > All I can find is a void. Is that it? > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > ------------------------------ > *From: * roomsearching <[email protected]> > *Date: *Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:09:09 +0100 > *To: *Mark Ty-Wharton<[email protected]> > *Cc: *<[email protected]>; Advaita<[email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: tinnitus > > The steps are like this : > > 1) Ask yourself "Who am I ?" with a deep feeling. Keep asking this > continuously for a few days. > > > 2) Try to locate it.... is it from your head ? Where are you ? Who are you > ? what are you ? Keep asking. > Look for where "I" is arising from within your field of consciousness. It > has to be from within you. Where is it ? > > The source will be revealed. Be patient and keep repeating this exercise. > There is a centre of your whole being. > The answer can be found. Trust me. It is the central switch of your whole > system. > > > > Use your own awareness to find its source. > > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Okay, willing to try your method. >> >> Give me specific instructions say ten steps - how to sit - what to say - >> where to look? >> >> I disagree that the person disappears forever, then again I would >> >> an experience of enlightenment happened in my car >> >> there was bliss >> >> it was a bit boring, like taking heroin >> >> lasted hours >> >> got annoying >> >> I (or should I say annoyance and frustration) came back >> >> Bliss is available >> >> And... >> >> >> On 22 July 2010 14:14, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> All experience arises because of your consciousness which perceives >>> everything around you. >>> So consciousness comes out of its source, gives life to the sense organs >>> and enjoys the world of sensory experiences. >>> In reality there is only you and all experiences are only your >>> experiences. >>> All that you have ever known is only your own memory and perception >>> recorded in your brain. >>> There are no others. There is only you. >>> And that you is powered by consciousness which arises from the source. >>> To find the source, you have to do Self Enquiry. >>> When you find the source, all that you are looking for in the world >>> becomes meaningless. >>> Because all that you are searching for is only your source because of the >>> wholeness and bliss which it is. >>> All the laws, morals, religions, history, science in your brain is only >>> useless because it is all powered by consciousness. >>> It arises from a hole in your chest. Find it! >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:54 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> How can the source of all experience be experienced? >>>> >>>> Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: * roomsearching <[email protected]> >>>> *Sender: * [email protected] >>>> *Date: *Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:50:24 +0100 >>>> *To: *Mark Ty-Wharton<[email protected]> >>>> *Cc: *[email protected]<[email protected]> >>>> *Subject: *Re: tinnitus >>>> >>>> Unless you find the source of the Self, just knowing that you are >>>> awareness is not yet Self-realization. >>>> It is only partial. >>>> To complete the process, you have to find the source. >>>> When the source is found, the person will never be able to arise again. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Mark Ty-Wharton < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The point you are missing RS is that self-realisation doesn't happen to >>>>> anyone >>>>> >>>>> YOU cannot be self realised - nobody can - the realisation is the >>>>> recognition that YOU made YOU up >>>>> >>>>> Then YOU simply disappear, fall away, in the arising awareness >>>>> >>>>> But YOU are not the awareness >>>>> >>>>> Awareness just IS >>>>> >>>>> Realisation just IS >>>>> >>>>> Nothing happens to a person >>>>> >>>>> The PERSON arises again in the awareness >>>>> >>>>> But if the PERSON now claims to be self-realised, then enlightenment is >>>>> again lost. >>>>> >>>>> Take a step back into yourself and question the questioner >>>>> >>>>> Who is it that is self realised? >>>>> >>>>> If you see what there is to be seen there will be an understanding of >>>>> the apparent ridicule showing up in this group. >>>>> >>>>> Hope that helps. >>>>> >>>>> Now choose... >>>>> >>>>> Aha? >>>>> >>>>> Or? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 22 July 2010 12:01, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Of course, I am facing that anger from many people here. In fact two >>>>>> strangers by the name Vijaya and some other idiot (who I called Indian >>>>>> cunts) >>>>>> jumped on me and started giving me lectures telling me I have a mental >>>>>> problem. This happened exactly at the moment I made the mistake of >>>>>> telling >>>>>> everybody here that I am self-realized. Besides, I am facing another >>>>>> failure >>>>>> of a person called Sandeep often ridiculing my experiences. I think most >>>>>> people think that realization happens to only famous people. And even >>>>>> famous >>>>>> people are being slagged off(Osho or UG) as fake, why should I expect >>>>>> someone to believe my story ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Mark Ty-Wharton < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I used to be vehemently angry about life and people like you would >>>>>>> push all my buttons and I would react. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let's get this straight. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a long way to go to be in PERMANENT bliss and yet... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When people post in such a way as to rub against my fragile ego, I >>>>>>> feel no need to react. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The level of bliss I carry and or my current level of dissociation or >>>>>>> separation from ego is perhaps enough there is a realisation this >>>>>>> rubbing up >>>>>>> against my beliefs about the way things should be is not happening to a >>>>>>> "me" >>>>>>> it is simply happening and the "me" reacts and is mostly ignored. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A "person" trying to be in bliss would almost certainly get annoyed >>>>>>> and lash out against those upsetting his equilibrium. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When you give up the pretence of self realisation and the counter >>>>>>> pretence of anger, name calling and self righteousness, you can throw >>>>>>> away >>>>>>> the books you cling to! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from an iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 22 Jul 2010, at 05:45, roomsearching <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All the physical symptoms are of Kundalini, so there is no question >>>>>>> of going to a hospital with Kundalini.I understand that you are some >>>>>>> bastard >>>>>>> who has no respect for the word "Kundalini" when so many people are >>>>>>> having >>>>>>> genuine experiences of it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is a difference between the belief "I am self-realized" and the >>>>>>> fact that "I am self-realized". >>>>>>> If you fell down from a tree, you may not believe it >>>>>>> ................or you just know it happened. >>>>>>> It is not a belief, it is true knowledge. It is true knowing. It is >>>>>>> so strong that it can change your life of inconsistencies into a >>>>>>> permanent >>>>>>> blissful and absolutely still and always in the moment - which cannot >>>>>>> happen >>>>>>> with a belief. >>>>>>> You can just say that you do want to believe that it did not happen >>>>>>> to me. So why such a strong belief ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Psylium may be good for you which is your personal belief. >>>>>>> But your doctor's prescriptions may not necessarily be applicable to >>>>>>> everyone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 4:12 AM, Kuber Technologies >>>>>>> <<[email protected]> >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:30 AM, roomsearching >>>>>>>> <<[email protected]> >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are some physical signs and symptoms which have manifested in >>>>>>>>> my case. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If that is so, the urgent and serious( you are big on seriousness >>>>>>>> isn't it) ... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ...need to visit a hospital, specially the psychiatric ward. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> All the signs agree with the literature and I have confirmed them >>>>>>>>> after almost an year of research. >>>>>>>>> I finally realized that I am self-realized after one year of >>>>>>>>> clarification. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The sense of investment in an identity. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just a little intelligence can see that there is no difference >>>>>>>> between the belief I am Joe-the-plumber and the belief I am self >>>>>>>> realized. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> At least Joe silently carries on plumbing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sometimes people get self-realized but they do not even know it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> People do not get self-realized. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Whether there is a ranting about it or the advent of a total >>>>>>>> silence..... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ....silence itself apperceiving that in the absence of the other... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ...to whom is a proclamation, any proclamation ........to be >>>>>>>> addressed to. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The apperceiving that without a need of a proclamation to be >>>>>>>> delivered to.......can there ever be a loci of such a proclamation to >>>>>>>> rest >>>>>>>> upon.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In your case you come here and write your stupid essays which show >>>>>>>>> your mangled and mutilated mindset. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Opinion noted. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> All you can say is that I should go to a doctor. >>>>>>>>> Obviously you have no idea what the whole game is about. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The whole game is a wholesome idea. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So get the basics right before you write something about Advaita. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You might sound like someone who knows what non-duality is. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But the problem is, you are a still a fucking idiot whose >>>>>>>>> consciousness is still stuck in the basal chakra of the asshole. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Again a little, a tiny weeny amount of intelligence could have seen >>>>>>>> an asshole is a hole. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Mooldhara Chakra is located at the base of the spine. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But then maybe a case of chronic constipation could be the cause of >>>>>>>> all the symptoms on which you have bee researching for a year. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Try the natural laxative......Psyllium husk, one teaspoon first >>>>>>>> thing every morning >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's great in clearing up all passages, of all ideations and >>>>>>>> symptoms. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So first raise your awareness to a higher level which requires >>>>>>>>> seriousness. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Naaaah. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The patent on idiocy is with RS. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >
