Well I found that but RS says there is something else there - a SELF? I want instructions on how to find it.
Or did I go a step too far for that? Sent from an iPhone On 22 Jul 2010, at 17:11, [email protected] wrote: > I can't find it, where is it? > All I can find is a void. Is that it? > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > > From: roomsearching <[email protected]> > Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:09:09 +0100 > To: Mark Ty-Wharton<[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]>; Advaita<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: tinnitus > > The steps are like this : > > 1) Ask yourself "Who am I ?" with a deep feeling. Keep asking this > continuously for a few days. > > > 2) Try to locate it.... is it from your head ? Where are you ? Who are you ? > what are you ? Keep asking. > Look for where "I" is arising from within your field of consciousness. It has > to be from within you. Where is it ? > > The source will be revealed. Be patient and keep repeating this exercise. > There is a centre of your whole being. > The answer can be found. Trust me. It is the central switch of your whole > system. > > > > Use your own awareness to find its source. > > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> > wrote: > Okay, willing to try your method. > > Give me specific instructions say ten steps - how to sit - what to say - > where to look? > > I disagree that the person disappears forever, then again I would > > an experience of enlightenment happened in my car > > there was bliss > > it was a bit boring, like taking heroin > > lasted hours > > got annoying > > I (or should I say annoyance and frustration) came back > > Bliss is available > > And... > > > On 22 July 2010 14:14, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > All experience arises because of your consciousness which perceives > everything around you. > So consciousness comes out of its source, gives life to the sense organs and > enjoys the world of sensory experiences. > In reality there is only you and all experiences are only your experiences. > All that you have ever known is only your own memory and perception recorded > in your brain. > There are no others. There is only you. > And that you is powered by consciousness which arises from the source. > To find the source, you have to do Self Enquiry. > When you find the source, all that you are looking for in the world becomes > meaningless. > Because all that you are searching for is only your source because of the > wholeness and bliss which it is. > All the laws, morals, religions, history, science in your brain is only > useless because it is all powered by consciousness. > It arises from a hole in your chest. Find it! > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:54 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > How can the source of all experience be experienced? > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > > From: roomsearching <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:50:24 +0100 > To: Mark Ty-Wharton<[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected]<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: tinnitus > > Unless you find the source of the Self, just knowing that you are awareness > is not yet Self-realization. > It is only partial. > To complete the process, you have to find the source. > When the source is found, the person will never be able to arise again. > > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> > wrote: > The point you are missing RS is that self-realisation doesn't happen to anyone > > YOU cannot be self realised - nobody can - the realisation is the recognition > that YOU made YOU up > > Then YOU simply disappear, fall away, in the arising awareness > > But YOU are not the awareness > > Awareness just IS > > Realisation just IS > > Nothing happens to a person > > The PERSON arises again in the awareness > > But if the PERSON now claims to be self-realised, then enlightenment is again > lost. > > Take a step back into yourself and question the questioner > > Who is it that is self realised? > > If you see what there is to be seen there will be an understanding of the > apparent ridicule showing up in this group. > > Hope that helps. > > Now choose... > > Aha? > > Or? > > > On 22 July 2010 12:01, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > Of course, I am facing that anger from many people here. In fact two > strangers by the name Vijaya and some other idiot (who I called Indian cunts) > jumped on me and started giving me lectures telling me I have a mental > problem. This happened exactly at the moment I made the mistake of telling > everybody here that I am self-realized. Besides, I am facing another failure > of a person called Sandeep often ridiculing my experiences. I think most > people think that realization happens to only famous people. And even famous > people are being slagged off(Osho or UG) as fake, why should I expect someone > to believe my story ? > > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> > wrote: > I used to be vehemently angry about life and people like you would push all > my buttons and I would react. > > Let's get this straight. > > I have a long way to go to be in PERMANENT bliss and yet... > > When people post in such a way as to rub against my fragile ego, I feel no > need to react. > > The level of bliss I carry and or my current level of dissociation or > separation from ego is perhaps enough there is a realisation this rubbing up > against my beliefs about the way things should be is not happening to a "me" > it is simply happening and the "me" reacts and is mostly ignored. > > A "person" trying to be in bliss would almost certainly get annoyed and lash > out against those upsetting his equilibrium. > > When you give up the pretence of self realisation and the counter pretence of > anger, name calling and self righteousness, you can throw away the books you > cling to! > > Sent from an iPhone > > On 22 Jul 2010, at 05:45, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > >> All the physical symptoms are of Kundalini, so there is no question of going >> to a hospital with Kundalini.I understand that you are some bastard who has >> no respect for the word "Kundalini" when so many people are having genuine >> experiences of it. >> >> There is a difference between the belief "I am self-realized" and the fact >> that "I am self-realized". >> If you fell down from a tree, you may not believe it ................or you >> just know it happened. >> It is not a belief, it is true knowledge. It is true knowing. It is so >> strong that it can change your life of inconsistencies into a permanent >> blissful and absolutely still and always in the moment - which cannot happen >> with a belief. >> You can just say that you do want to believe that it did not happen to me. >> So why such a strong belief ? >> >> Psylium may be good for you which is your personal belief. >> But your doctor's prescriptions may not necessarily be applicable to >> everyone. >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 4:12 AM, Kuber Technologies >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:30 AM, roomsearching <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> There are some physical signs and symptoms which have manifested in my case. >> >> >> If that is so, the urgent and serious( you are big on seriousness isn't it) >> ... >> >> ...need to visit a hospital, specially the psychiatric ward. >> >> >> All the signs agree with the literature and I have confirmed them after >> almost an year of research. >> I finally realized that I am self-realized after one year of clarification. >> >> >> The sense of investment in an identity. >> >> Just a little intelligence can see that there is no difference between the >> belief I am Joe-the-plumber and the belief I am self realized. >> >> At least Joe silently carries on plumbing. >> >> >> >> >> >> Sometimes people get self-realized but they do not even know it. >> >> >> People do not get self-realized. >> >> Whether there is a ranting about it or the advent of a total silence..... >> >> ....silence itself apperceiving that in the absence of the other... >> >> ...to whom is a proclamation, any proclamation ........to be addressed to. >> >> The apperceiving that without a need of a proclamation to be delivered >> to.......can there ever be a loci of such a proclamation to rest upon.. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In your case you come here and write your stupid essays which show your >> mangled and mutilated mindset. >> >> >> Opinion noted. >> >> All you can say is that I should go to a doctor. >> Obviously you have no idea what the whole game is about. >> >> >> The whole game is a wholesome idea. >> >> >> >> >> So get the basics right before you write something about Advaita. >> You might sound like someone who knows what non-duality is. >> >> >> Thank you. >> >> >> But the problem is, you are a still a fucking idiot whose consciousness is >> still stuck in the basal chakra of the asshole. >> >> >> Again a little, a tiny weeny amount of intelligence could have seen an >> asshole is a hole. >> >> The Mooldhara Chakra is located at the base of the spine. >> >> >> But then maybe a case of chronic constipation could be the cause of all the >> symptoms on which you have bee researching for a year. >> >> Try the natural laxative......Psyllium husk, one teaspoon first thing every >> morning >> >> It's great in clearing up all passages, of all ideations and symptoms. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> So first raise your awareness to a higher level which requires seriousness. >> >> >> >> Naaaah. >> >> The patent on idiocy is with RS. >> >> >> >> >> >> >
