Guessing is not useful - what you know is you don't know - in that, liberation
Sent from an iPhone On 11 Aug 2010, at 05:20, Bob1357 <[email protected]> wrote: > I have reached a point where I say, “I just am.” Everything and > everyone are part of me, appearing to be different for reasons I still > don't know. > I'm guessing to help me see my own faults, in order to help me to > correct them to to end the cycle of Karma or something along those > lines. > But, what he heck do I know, I just am. > I would like to hear more from Marko. > I would like Marko to open a new thread to share his daily progress > and or experiences. > Of course, this is entirely up to Marko. > Marko may or may not have anymore interest in this board now. > > On Aug 10, 5:35 pm, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: >> Marko, >> >> The interesting thing was I was observing you making some repetitive >> statements about your desperate situation. >> Everyday you were going on and on about "How everything was a thought " and >> "Whatever we were talking were thoughts". >> Exactly - everything we were talking about were thoughts. So you must be >> really wondering what the reality is. >> I had come to that desperate dead end of my life almost three years ago. It >> had forced me to question, what reality exactly was. >> Right now, you have only started the journey. If you spend more time on it, >> it will finish your journey faster. >> But the main question you have to ask is "what the reality is " . >> Because for you, the only reality now is "I am" . >> Reality. That is the keyword. >> All you are saying right now is that you are starting to catch hold of the >> "I am" feeling. >> Now you have to dwell in the "I am". >> This is still not the reality although it may seem like reality to you. >> Right now, you are a candle burning away on your own wax and shining your >> light to the world. >> There is nothing to fear. >> When you embark on such a noble task, God will be your servant. >> Trust your inner guru. >> Reaching your inner guru is your goal. >> >> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Marko Gregoric >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> I am grateful to all of you for make me understand the meaninglessness of >>> my mental excursions. And most of all I am grateful to Nisargadatta and >>> people like him who showed me what to "do" in this mess of opportunities. >>> Godszen, yes I am giving myself full attention whenever I have a minute >>> free of my daily duties. >>> Thanks Marcus, Thanks RS! >> >>> Practice, practice, practice! >>> thats all what I am doing >> >>> 2010/8/10 Marcus <[email protected]> >> >>>> . >> >>>> Congratulations Marko …………. You found yours. It can never leave you. >> >>>> “Know thy self” ………………all of it. >>>> This reconnection to the whole is within each one of us. We live >>>> these illusions, to find this way home. >> >>>> The key to the door is the self. >>>> Take full control of self and you have mastered the universe. >> >>>> Practise makes perfect ………………. Congratulations. >> >>>> . >>>> On Aug 10, 10:38 am, godszen <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> I hope you're actually giving yourself some attention >> >>>>> On Aug 9, 3:14 pm, Marko Gregoric <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>> I don´t know what is it, but the fact is that I feel like I found a >>>> secret >>>>>> door/shortcut to an internal source of ....(bliss, thc, fire, >>>>>> endorphine...whatever you wanna call it). It was in front of my nose >>>> for all >>>>>> this time since I have first read Nisargadatta and I was so dumb that >>>> it >>>>>> took me two years before I really tried it. I was just talking, >>>>>> intellectualizing, discussing about what I thought about this topic. >>>> It is >>>>>> like watching a banana and discussing about bananas for years without >>>>>> trying it and then finnaly try it. >>>>>> It fuckin works everytime I try it. It is really amazing. >>>>>> My mind started to accept that this works and it is starting to become >>>> an >>>>>> automatic process. Since two days ago my focusing on the I am sense >>>> has >>>>>> increased in frequency. The is mind literally doing it at least 30 >>>> times a >>>>>> day without any big effort. The more you do it the more it becomes >>>>>> automatic. >> >>>>>> I`ll cut the crap...just try it (for those who haven´t) >> >>>>>> 2010/8/8 Rodger <[email protected]> >> >>>>>>> That which begins must end,But is not for Marko that the beginning >>>>>>> ends.Marko is the/a beginning,ending. >> >>>>>>> On Aug 7, 8:21 pm, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> It is the beginning of the end for Marko. >> >>>>>>> > On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Rodger <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> Marko may have fired up a joint but,he did not start the >>>> fire...it's >>>>>>>>> always been burning...since the world has been turning.Marko is >>>> just a >>>>>>>>> flicker. >> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 7, 7:43 pm, roomsearching <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Marko has lit his own candle. He is now going to burn burn >>>> burn. >> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:14 AM, Rodger <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hi ya,Bob.You must be fizic.I was just thinking about you. >> >>>>>>>>>>> Who's you ask? >>>>>>>>>>> Nisargadatta couldn't even light his own candle. >> >>>>>>>>>>> As far as I can tell Marko has just found a new...and >>>> cheaper...way >>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> get high. >>>>>>>>>>> But,I'm withholding judgement. >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 7, 6:57 pm, Bob1357 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Who's? >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 7:04 pm, roomsearching <[email protected] >> >>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rodger, I don't know if you noticed it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> But a candle has just been lit because of Nisargadatta's >>>> power. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Rodger < >>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> RS, I know it is his personal life. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> My asking about it is my personal life. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do not need you to tell me what is necessary or not >>>> necessary >>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no problems with associations in the mind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently you do.But,that is your personal life. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And,by the way,I think his first post is his personal >>>>>>> life,too. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway...welcome back,Marko.I hope you had a nice >>>> vacation. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 6:16 pm, roomsearching < >>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Rodger < >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome back,Marko.How was the vacation? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is his personal life. It is not necessary to >>>> discuss >>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> Rodger. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are not making friendships here. Because >>>> friendships are >>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> associations in the mind. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 4:21 pm, Marko Gregoric < >>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was watching closely the sense of I am in >>>> these two >>>>>>> days, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> intensively. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just after a 5 min excercise I ve felt like I >>>> have >>>>>>> smoked a >>>>>>>>>>> joint. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feeling with the difference that I was not >>>> stoned. >>>>>>> Every >>>>>>>>> time I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> repeat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exercise it works. It is amazing. One doesn t >>>> need to >>>>>>> buy >>>>>>>>> stuff >>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can get high for free. I am going to do it more >>>> and >>>>>>> more, I >>>>>>>>>>> liked so >>>>>>>>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this feeling. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Godszen was right, one has to practice, to do >>>> the >>>>>>> homework >>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Siddharameschwar, Nisargadatta, Ramana...gave to >>>>>>> anybody >>>>>>>>>>> interested. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The watching of the I am sense is in fact a >>>> button >>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>> acctually >>>>>>>>>>>>>> works, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullshit!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not even interested to understand what >>>> happens or >>>>>>> why, >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuckin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the feeling. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will be eternally grateful for this! >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was just to dumb to really try it and not just >>>>>>> talking >>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>>> it. 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