"I'm guessing to help me see my own faults, in order to help me to correct them to to end the cycle of Karma or something along those lines."
"Guessing is not useful". Perhaps not when one is guessing what the random lottery numbers may be. My guess would be, an educated guess backed by many bits of known information is not so bad. Beside, all one does is guess anyway. Nothing is known. For the record, my fault and Karma guess above, was designed to get responses in order to help me understand. Must have been a design flaw, because I didn't get any direct responses. :) On Aug 11, 4:35 am, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote: > Guessing is not useful - what you know is you don't know - in that, liberation > > Sent from an iPhone > > On 11 Aug 2010, at 05:20, Bob1357 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I have reached a point where I say, “I just am.” Everything and > > everyone are part of me, appearing to be different for reasons I still > > don't know. > > I'm guessing to help me see my own faults, in order to help me to > > correct them to to end the cycle of Karma or something along those > > lines. > > But, what he heck do I know, I just am. > > I would like to hear more from Marko. > > I would like Marko to open a new thread to share his daily progress > > and or experiences. > > Of course, this is entirely up to Marko. > > Marko may or may not have anymore interest in this board now. > > > On Aug 10, 5:35 pm, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Marko, > > >> The interesting thing was I was observing you making some repetitive > >> statements about your desperate situation. > >> Everyday you were going on and on about "How everything was a thought " and > >> "Whatever we were talking were thoughts". > >> Exactly - everything we were talking about were thoughts. So you must be > >> really wondering what the reality is. > >> I had come to that desperate dead end of my life almost three years ago. It > >> had forced me to question, what reality exactly was. > >> Right now, you have only started the journey. If you spend more time on it, > >> it will finish your journey faster. > >> But the main question you have to ask is "what the reality is " . > >> Because for you, the only reality now is "I am" . > >> Reality. That is the keyword. > >> All you are saying right now is that you are starting to catch hold of the > >> "I am" feeling. > >> Now you have to dwell in the "I am". > >> This is still not the reality although it may seem like reality to you. > >> Right now, you are a candle burning away on your own wax and shining your > >> light to the world. > >> There is nothing to fear. > >> When you embark on such a noble task, God will be your servant. > >> Trust your inner guru. > >> Reaching your inner guru is your goal. > > >> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Marko Gregoric > >> <[email protected]>wrote: > > >>> I am grateful to all of you for make me understand the meaninglessness of > >>> my mental excursions. And most of all I am grateful to Nisargadatta and > >>> people like him who showed me what to "do" in this mess of opportunities. > >>> Godszen, yes I am giving myself full attention whenever I have a minute > >>> free of my daily duties. > >>> Thanks Marcus, Thanks RS! > > >>> Practice, practice, practice! > >>> thats all what I am doing > > >>> 2010/8/10 Marcus <[email protected]> > > >>>> . > > >>>> Congratulations Marko …………. You found yours. It can never leave you. > > >>>> “Know thy self” ………………all of it. > >>>> This reconnection to the whole is within each one of us. We live > >>>> these illusions, to find this way home. > > >>>> The key to the door is the self. > >>>> Take full control of self and you have mastered the universe. > > >>>> Practise makes perfect ………………. Congratulations. > > >>>> . > >>>> On Aug 10, 10:38 am, godszen <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> I hope you're actually giving yourself some attention > > >>>>> On Aug 9, 3:14 pm, Marko Gregoric <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>> I don´t know what is it, but the fact is that I feel like I found a > >>>> secret > >>>>>> door/shortcut to an internal source of ....(bliss, thc, fire, > >>>>>> endorphine...whatever you wanna call it). It was in front of my nose > >>>> for all > >>>>>> this time since I have first read Nisargadatta and I was so dumb that > >>>> it > >>>>>> took me two years before I really tried it. I was just talking, > >>>>>> intellectualizing, discussing about what I thought about this topic. > >>>> It is > >>>>>> like watching a banana and discussing about bananas for years without > >>>>>> trying it and then finnaly try it. > >>>>>> It fuckin works everytime I try it. It is really amazing. > >>>>>> My mind started to accept that this works and it is starting to become > >>>> an > >>>>>> automatic process. Since two days ago my focusing on the I am sense > >>>> has > >>>>>> increased in frequency. The is mind literally doing it at least 30 > >>>> times a > >>>>>> day without any big effort. The more you do it the more it becomes > >>>>>> automatic. > > >>>>>> I`ll cut the crap...just try it (for those who haven´t) > > >>>>>> 2010/8/8 Rodger <[email protected]> > > >>>>>>> That which begins must end,But is not for Marko that the beginning > >>>>>>> ends.Marko is the/a beginning,ending. > > >>>>>>> On Aug 7, 8:21 pm, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> It is the beginning of the end for Marko. > > >>>>>>> > On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Rodger <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> Marko may have fired up a joint but,he did not start the > >>>> fire...it's > >>>>>>>>> always been burning...since the world has been turning.Marko is > >>>> just a > >>>>>>>>> flicker. > > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 7, 7:43 pm, roomsearching <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Marko has lit his own candle. He is now going to burn burn > >>>> burn. > > >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:14 AM, Rodger <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi ya,Bob.You must be fizic.I was just thinking about you. > > >>>>>>>>>>> Who's you ask? > >>>>>>>>>>> Nisargadatta couldn't even light his own candle. > > >>>>>>>>>>> As far as I can tell Marko has just found a new...and > >>>> cheaper...way > >>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>> get high. > >>>>>>>>>>> But,I'm withholding judgement. > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 7, 6:57 pm, Bob1357 <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> Who's? > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 7:04 pm, roomsearching <[email protected] > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rodger, I don't know if you noticed it. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> But a candle has just been lit because of Nisargadatta's > >>>> power. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Rodger < > >>>> [email protected]> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> RS, I know it is his personal life. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> My asking about it is my personal life. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do not need you to tell me what is necessary or not > >>>> necessary > >>>>>>>>> about > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no problems with associations in the mind. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently you do.But,that is your personal life. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And,by the way,I think his first post is his personal > >>>>>>> life,too. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway...welcome back,Marko.I hope you had a nice > >>>> vacation. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 6:16 pm, roomsearching < > >>>> [email protected]> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Rodger < > >>>>>>> [email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome back,Marko.How was the vacation? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is his personal life. It is not necessary to > >>>> discuss > >>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>>>> Rodger. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are not making friendships here. Because > >>>> friendships are > >>>>>>>>> just > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> associations in the mind. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 4:21 pm, Marko Gregoric < > >>>>>>> [email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was watching closely the sense of I am in > >>>> these two > >>>>>>> days, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> intensively. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just after a 5 min excercise I ve felt like I > >>>> have > >>>>>>> smoked a > >>>>>>>>>>> joint. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feeling with the difference that I was not > >>>> stoned. > >>>>>>> Every > >>>>>>>>> time I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> repeat > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exercise it works. It is amazing. One doesn t > >>>> need to > >>>>>>> buy > >>>>>>>>> stuff > >>>>>>>>>>> no > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can get high for free. I am going to do it more > >>>> and > >>>>>>> more, I > >>>>>>>>>>> liked so > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> much > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this feeling. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Godszen was right, one has to practice, to do > >>>> the > >>>>>>> homework > >>>>>>>>>>> which > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Siddharameschwar, Nisargadatta, Ramana...gave to > >>>>>>> anybody > >>>>>>>>>>> interested. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The watching of the I am sense is in fact a > >>>> button > >>>>>>> which > >>>>>>>>>>> acctually > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> works, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bullshit!!! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not even interested to understand what > >>>> happens or > >>>>>>> why, > >>>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>>> just > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuckin > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the feeling. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will be eternally grateful for this! > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was just to dumb to really try it and not just > >>>>>>> talking > >>>>>>>>> about > >>>>>>>>>>> it. I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> t > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knew I was talking about.- Hide quoted text - > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >>>>> - Show quoted text -
