Ah okay He talks about I am sense though?
Sent from an iPhone On 10 Sep 2010, at 00:29, godszen <[email protected]> wrote: > as far as I know Nis. NEVER said; repeat the phrase I AM > > on the contrary, he promoted silent, non-conceptual awareness > > but like you said, it's the people who re-write the history books > who get it wrong, usually to promote their propaganda > > On Sep 9, 4:15 pm, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote: >> Marcus >> >> Einstein and Newton were both self-realised, they were clear about reality, >> living from the distinctions of matter and consciousness. >> >> It is the scientists that try to learn about the work of Einstein or Newton >> and then teach it to others who fuck it all up. >> >> Nisargadatta becomes an icon for all us mere mortals to use as an expression >> of self? >> >> I am? >> >> FUCK OFF >> >> All these stupid videos of gurus on the internet repeating the phrase "I am" >> with this look on their face like "look at ME this really MEANS something >> because I can FEEL it in my heart" >> >> DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB SHIT >> >> Not what the man was saying at all >> >> Don't follow the man >> >> Look for yourself >> >> REAL NOT REAL SAME DIFFERENT SAME >> >> Can't be explained in the words you used before >> >> So why bother trying >> >> Words belittle it >> >> I AM? >> >> STUPID >> >> No you are not - and that isn't it either >> >> The quantum self video was good though >> >> entertainment >> >> On 9 September 2010 10:31, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> . >> >>> Thanks Roomy, >> >>> Quit right. The real joke is about science is, it’s arrogance to >>> the principle that we should all worship the God of logic and reason. >>> The great and glorious 2+2=4 world where all is constantly bound by >>> conformity and ridge lines of dualism. The joke is that science by >>> it’s very delusion of reality can never rest. Science has no human >>> ability to relax. Science as an attitude can not choose peace, or >>> surrender with expressions like “Fuck the world” Science is doomed >>> to frustration because every conclusion it creates will then create >>> new questions. A world doom to infinite questions. That’s why >>> Newton, Einstein and theorist of today torture themselves with finding >>> the mathematical solution of everything. >> >>> Thankfully we as humans can reach a stage in our thinking where >>> stillness and silence provide all the answers necessary to know in >>> your heart that this is a beautiful day. >> >>> Beyond that, knowledge is futile to the overall objective of having a >>> good day. >> >>> Know that, all this creation in this ever-present moment is, in >>> divine perfection. >> >>> It just looks messy sometimes as circumstance works it’s >>> magic. >> >>> . >>> On Sep 8, 3:43 pm, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> consciousness is subtler than space because even that space is formed in >>> the >>>> screen of our consciousness. >>>> This is what Nisargadatta says and i find it is somewhat correct. >> >>>> The mystery of the physical universe cannot be solved according to Buddha >>>> because the delve into, the more basic particles you find. >> >>>> According to a quantum physicist Amit Goswami, even the world is not real >>>> because our consciousness causes the ever changing wave property of the >>>> universe to collapse and it gives us an illusory stillness. The world is >>> not >>>> still, it is continuously in motion. >>>> But I think the real stillness is probably in our own pure consciousness. >>>> The video is here ----http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s42mrdhKwRA >> >>>> From what I gather so far, consciousness is the most basic property of >>> the >>>> universe. Pure awareness exists whether it is in a body or even without >>> a >>>> body. Being is not necessarily physical in nature. Being itself is a >>> basic >>>> property of the universe. In fact, the universe appears in this Being. So >>> it >>>> is actually that the universe is inside us rather than we being in the >>>> universe. This being is ----ONE. There is only one pure being. Hence it >>> is >>>> called Brahman or non-duality or Advaita. This is what Ramana says. The >>> Self >>>> supports everything. >> >>>> One who gets this point clearly can continue further and do miracles >>> like >>>> walking on water or be in two different places at the same time(Ramana >>> did >>>> this) or clairvoyance and clairaudience. >> >>>> So literally, everything you see is inside you. And that you is not the >>> body >>>> (rolling on the floor laughing.). Get the 'I am the body' idea out of >>> your >>>> head for good. Because it is the first and the last belief that needs to >>> be >>>> eradicated. (laughing out loud and laughing my ass off). >> >>>> consciousness cannot be understood by quantum physicists because there >>> are a >>>> lot of erratic problems they have encountered in the deepest levels of >>> the >>>> atom - like one thing being at two places at the same time and such other >>>> stories (laughing out loud). >> >>>> This is why I do not take part in your poetic discussions anymore because >>>> this shit is mind boggling and serious business. This is why I was trying >>> to >>>> do astral projection and stuff like that. You can do many things if u >>>> practice stuff using your awareness. (fuck the world) >> >>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Marcus <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>>> . >> >>>>> Yes, and what of those atoms which make up my hands and my eye- >>>>> balls. Do they too have a right to vote in a pretend democracy ?? >> >>>>> Does the occurrence of an electron within it’s probability wave relate >>>>> to a single atom or many ?? >> >>>>> If infinity and zero where to have a baby what would it be >>>>> called ???? don't say One ??? >> >>>>> There is no physical measure for conscious awareness. Atomic >>>>> structure, Newton and Einstein happily record and predict tangible >>>>> pattern behaviours. These alone rest in a non-human world where >>>>> every solution creates multiple questions. Great fun and very >>>>> intellectually simulating but does very little to help me understand >>>>> what it is to be me. The physicality of the phenomena surrounding me >>>>> does nothing to help me gets to grips with love, hate, beauty, >>>>> revelation, stupidity and brilliance, all of which haunt me on a daily >>>>> basis. >> >>>>> Science, Darwinism explains physicality only. In my head, my mind >>>>> does exists as much as any other existence, a very real world which is >>>>> real to me but science will never recognise. >> >>>>> According to cosmology, Outer space is 80% dark-energy, which >>>>> basically means they don’t know. Like they don’t know what >>>>> gravity is. They know how it works but not what it is. >> >>>>> Similarly, consciousness. How does physicality occur, where does it >>>>> come from and go too ??? >> >>>>> At a sub-atomic level nothing exists in a traditional sense, it only >>>>> has a probability of occurring. Infinite probability is the >>>>> foundation of all science. >> >>>>> Now, decide what it is that brings light into your back yard ………… >>>>> &&& >> >>>>> . >> >>>>> On Sep 8, 9:46 am, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> So we live in a Universe made of atoms and the atoms that make up my >>>>> physical form are as old as the Universe itself >> >>>>>> Q. Do they know that? >> >>>>>> Q. Space is the closest thing to a vacuum with just a few hydrogen >>> atoms >>>>> per cubic centimetre (apart from all the debris) - what's that all >>> about >>>>> then? >> >>>>>> Q. Quantum theory predicts that no volume of space can be perfectly >>> empty >>>>> - meaning the tiny space between the atoms in your physical being have >>>>> something in them? >> >>>>>> In any case, the perfect vacuum is only a philosophical concept and >>> has >>>>> never been observed in practice. >> >>>>>> Sent from an iPhone- Hide quoted text - >> >>>> - Show quoted text -
