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On 19 Apr 2011, at 13:09, Marcus <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Of course you would still be.
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> Very different to your now but never the less still alive.
> Still conscious.   The point is that consciousness manifests through
> life.
> A tree is alive, so it too must have consciousness.   

I think you mean something else?

Consciousness means awareness of it's own existence and I don't even think my 
cat knows it is aware it just is

Life force, yes, I agree

Being, yes I agree

Self-knowledge?

Trees do not have self knowledge

Enlightenment would be a shift in self-knowledge away from an individual and 
separate view point

So for consciousness my experience of tree occurs at the point of the object 
tree such that I am the tree BUT and this is the point where people who have 
not had the experience get lost - the tree DOES NOT have the self experience of 
me - for me, the tree is me, for the tree as far as I can tell it doesn't care!

I may be wrong?

Can you think of a different word?

> Not the same as
> human consciousness.  A snail and a gold fish have consciousness life
> and yet again in a different form.   Forget the individual and look
> across the various forms of life that clearly manifest today.
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> We are the body, spirit and soul union.   The universe and
> circumstance bind us as one.
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> We are only separate in our illusions …………..
> Because today,  you have all life and all life has you.
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> On Apr 19, 12:51 pm, Marko Gregoric <[email protected]> wrote:
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