Can you get into my subconscious mind and tell me where I left my little white 
voice recorder Godszen? 

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On 20 Apr 2011, at 23:58, godszen <[email protected]> wrote:

> hehehe........
> 
> I don't believe anything anybody says.....
> 
> I only know what I experience first-hand,
> 
> and being able to literally get into another person's
> mind, and see/experience their self/consciousness/mind
> with them, I have seen awareness, aware of itself,
> 
> 
> On Apr 20, 12:43 am, Sandeep-Kuber Technologies
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 4/20/2011 10:43 AM, godszen wrote:
>> 
>>> Sandeep-Kuber Technologies wrote:
>>>> Which is why, you-as-you-truly-are can never perceive yourself.
>> 
>>>> Awareness-not-aware-of-itself-as awareness
>>> with the help of the human mind
>>> awareness can become aware of itself
>> 
>>> *self-realization*
>> 
>> When a tool is used, all that gets created/achieved/realized/reached is
>> a projection of the tool.
>> 
>> That's all.
>> 
>> It may be the most profoundest experience but still a projection of the
>> means that got used in the process.
>> 
>> The other usual misunderstanding not just by you GZ but by most is about
>> term awareness.
>> 
>> Awareness is always connoted as awareness of <whatever>.
>> 
>> And that is why it is accepted to be a synonymous with witnessing.
>> 
>> Typically it is held that there is no witnesser unless there is
>> something to be witnessed.
>> 
>> But the as-if-ness of this, as witnessing......may have a sense of a
>> witnesser and the witnessed, but these are all
>> "a sense of" ....there are no , separated, discreted loci, on which
>> these could be perched.
>> 
>> Which is why the pointing of that primordialness...
>> 
>> ....as awareness not aware of anything, not itself, nor it's absence,
>> nor even of the much bandied about...nothingness.
>> 
>> Don't go by the spiel that is being fed to you GZ, in the satsangh
>> circuit that you frequent.
>> 
>> In and as self-realization, there is neither a self-to-realize, nor a
>> Self-to-be realized, nor any realizing.
>> 
>> These are the same inducements that a salesman of second-hand cars use,
>> to sell you a lemon.
>> 
>> If lemonade is all that you are looking for, sure go for the lemons.

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