You're digging your hole deeper...  :)

And you're forgetting that Frans as also helped him too, but without the
arrogance and demeaning attitude.

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Patrick Steele ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Lead Software Architect
Image Process Design


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Tomiczek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 10:52 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Common Sort Order for .NET and 
> SQL Server
> 
> 
> So what?
> 
> The original poster actually misrepresented his case totally.
> 
> Not my fault, really, you know.
> 
> HE had the guts to stand up and excuse himself for this.
> 
> Everyone else acctually, despite this, seems to think that I do
> something wrong?
> 
> Do you guys eat arrogance for breakfast or what?
> 
> In the OP's answer to my post he actually made an explanation of his
> problem that was totally different than his original post.
> 
> So much for his "telling a bit from a byte".
> 
> Thomas 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Unmoderated discussion of advanced .NET topics. 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Kamen Lilov
> > Sent: Montag, 26. Juli 2004 16:45
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Common Sort Order for .NET and 
> > SQL Server
> > 
> > Thomas, in this particular case Clemens is completely right.  
> > You are being obnoxious.  Got a need to vent your anger at 
> > someone?  Try some of the jerks on less advanced forums who 
> > ask for help (or, more like, handholding) without bothering 
> > to even read the documentation first.  This is a serious 
> > forum, and the original poster explained the issue well 
> > enough so that we don't need to automatically assume he can't 
> > tell a bit from a byte.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Unmoderated discussion of advanced .NET topics.
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> > Thomas Tomiczek
> > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 5:05 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Common Sort Order for .NET and 
> > SQL Server
> > 
> > 
> > And in return I will refrain from telling you loudly what I 
> > think of people making posts such as yours.
> > 
> > Very nicely, clemens. One of the most arrogant posts I read 
> > in the last weeks here.
> > 
> > I was not insulting at all. All I did point oout is that 
> > someone had not done his homework (but came to an advanced 
> > forum) based on what turned out to be a total bad decsription 
> > of the error.
> > 
> > What terms you associate with this I do not know. I consider 
> > incompetence not acceptable. Maybe in your ocmpany it IS 
> > acceptable. Your decision. That simple.
> > 
> > Thomas 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Unmoderated discussion of advanced .NET topics.
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> > Clemens F. 
> > > Vasters
> > > Sent: Montag, 26. Juli 2004 16:00
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Common Sort Order for .NET and SQL 
> > > Server
> > > 
> > > It's a puzzle to me what sort of mental state would 
> trigger anyone 
> > > being so arrogant (and insulting) just because someone else 
> > has a bit 
> > > of a misconception about how things work and is therefore 
> > asking for 
> > > help.
> > > 
> > > I can think of a few terms I usually associate with folks 
> > having such 
> > > an attitude, but I think I will rather skip the enumeration 
> > given that 
> > > this is a public forum.
> > > 
> > > -cv
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Unmoderated discussion of advanced .NET topics. 
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas 
> > > Tomiczek
> > > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 3:30 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Common Sort Order for .NET and SQL 
> > > Server
> > > 
> > > Ok, let's go.
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Unmoderated discussion of advanced .NET topics.
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon 
> > > > Stonecash
> > > > Sent: Montag, 26. Juli 2004 14:13
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] Common Sort Order for .NET and 
> > SQL Server
> > > > 
> > > > I am having a problem getting SQL Server and .NET to agree
> > > on the sort
> > > > order for some data.
> > > 
> > > Really?
> > > 
> > > > My sort column in SQL Server is character data ([varchar]
> > > > (255) COLLATE SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS).  As I 
> > understand this, 
> > > > the data sorts in dictionary order.  Thus, a value of 
> > "F-SA" sorts 
> > > > between "FR" and "FT".
> > > 
> > > Tip: you seem to haves kipped reading the beginner section 
> > of your SQL 
> > > documentation. Your understanding is totally unsubstantiated.
> > > 
> > > > The problem is that .NET seems to think that the data is not 
> > > > in order.   I
> > > 
> > > And guess what, .NET is right with this.
> > > 
> > > Beginner SQL: unless you explicitly sort the data, it is 
> > unsorted in 
> > > the returned data set.
> > > 
> > > > have tried all of the CultureInfo settings that I can 
> think of to 
> > > > convince .NET to see this as ordered.  I have a need to
> > > 
> > > Why not fix your bugs regarding any basick nowledge how 
> SQL works, 
> > > instead of trying to get .NET agreeing?
> > > 
> > > > process these rows and compare them to another sorted
> > > stream of data
> > > > and the comparison is going nuts when it gets to these "special 
> > > > cases".
> > > 
> > > Then why do you not sort the data?
> > > 
> > > > Is there a way to get SQL Server and .NET on the same 
> (code) page 
> > > > without sorting the data internally after reading it from
> > > SQL Server?
> > > 
> > > No. SQL 101. Unless the SQL statement specifies a sort 
> order, sort 
> > > order is random.
> > > 
> > > That said - why do you not just specify a sort order in 
> your query? 
> > > This is pretty simple, and you do not have to resort on 
> the client 
> > > then. It just is not automatic.
> > > 
> > > Note: SQL is SET ORIENTED. Sets do not have an intrinsic 
> sort order.
> > > 
> > > Thomas Tomiczek
> > > THONA Software & Consulting Ltd.
> > > (Microsoft MVP C#/.NET)
> > > (CTO PowerNodes Ltd.)
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Jon Stonecash
> > > > 
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