Jon Orwant wrote:
> Whoa. Gnat (who, again, does not work for O'Reilly) kicked David off
> the list, and (I'm guessing) sent private mail to Simon. O'Reilly
> hasn't censored anyone. And I'm now speaking for the company when I
> encourage Simon to air his grievances. I don't know enough about his
> claim that O'Reilly clamps down on criticism to respond.
>
> We welcome criticism; it will help make us a better company. And for
> the record, we welcome the existence of books, web sites, and
> conferences that promote open source technologies. I heartily
> recommend Damian Conway's book Object Oriented Perl (Manning Press),
> and use.perl.org, and YAPC, where I'll be next week if any of you want
> to discuss these matters in person.
>
> -Jon
Excellent. See, I told you all that I missed something along the way.
It probably didn't help that I had a 1-1/2 day outage of my system at
the heart of this discussion.
Jon, I look up to you because you have done a lot for Perl. I also *do*
like O'Reilly. In hindsight, (which is 20/20), I may have spoken a bit
too hastily based upon what one person had said. I should have also
mentioned that I have never come across any problems with O'Reilly that
pertain to this - so again, I based it on what someone else had said...
With that, I'll quietly back out of this discussion with my tail between
my legs -- that is until I again have an opinion to opine...
I'll also be at YAPC to "discuss" all of these matters in person - but
definitely over beer... Lots and lots of beer. :^)
If Java has a cup of coffee, why can't Perl have something like a
quadruple espresso with 9 sugars?
Brent
--
Java? I've heard of it, it is what I drink while hacking Perl! -me
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