On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
> Madeline Schnapp [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth:
> *>Thanks all,
> *>
> *>We have recent job data but we were curious if any of you have data from a
> *>year ago this time or some period in the past. I do remember someone
> *>posting to this list about a year ago, or even last April (1999) that
> *>quoted some job stats from Dice.
>
> Ask might have a copy of it in the archives.
No, it's from before I started maintaining the lists.
But I have ~2400 mails from the list in my mailbox here, so I found the
following after doing a quick search.
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 10 07:52:29 2000
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:08:46 -0700
From: Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Number of Perl programmers
I didn't find a way to get good info from Sun on jobs, but they
seem to have 7 Perl jobs open and 0 Python jobs open. Interestingly
enough, IBM produced the same numbers -- 7 to 0. I couldn't search
Microsoft because the idiots' job search page generates a
fun little error:
Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80040e14'
[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Could not allocate space for object
'tblUsers' in database 'jobs' because the 'PRIMARY' filegroup is full.
/jobs/include/functions.asp, line 99
Ok, on to real data.
Given various values of $TERM in this URL:
http://jobs.careermosaic.com/j2/owa/srch.jl?hf=yahoo_general&x=yahoo_general&cj=or&mm=25&ds=$TERM
eiffel 1
javascript 103
lisp 12
perl 333
perlscript 0
python 2
shell 303
tcl 42
tk 37
Both Java and C++ ("C%2B%2B) produces "over 500" .
So, I guess we'll give perl-to-python 100:1, but those 2 are not
what I expect anyone will call this statistically significant.
You can sub in for $TERM the same things here:
http://monster.netscape.com/pf/search/USresult.htm?loc=&header=&KEYWORDS=$TERM&EmploymentType=A&SiteType=M&Submit=Search+for+Jobs
And get the following; note that it (apparently) tops out at 200.
eiffel 1
javascript 200
lisp 10
perl 200
perlscript 1
python 8
shell 200
tcl 93
tk 52
The Alta Vista search for jobs (at http://204.123.9.98) found:
eiffel 149
javascript 21556
lisp 756
perl 8260
perlscript 74
python 340
shell 9818
tcl 2178
tk 1667
At infoseek (http://www.infoseek.com/Topic/Find_a_job?tid=423)
where it also seems to top out at 200,
eiffel 0
javascript 135
lisp 1
perl 200
perlscript 0
python 4
shell 188
tcl 34
tk 12
(Java and C++ also get 200 here).
--tom
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 10 07:52:48 2000
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:21:17 -0800
From: Dick Hardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Number of Perl programmers
At 09:08 AM 12/27/98 , Tom Christiansen wrote:
>I didn't find a way to get good info from Sun on jobs, but they
>seem to have 7 Perl jobs open and 0 Python jobs open. Interestingly
>enough, IBM produced the same numbers -- 7 to 0. I couldn't search
>Microsoft because the idiots' job search page generates a
>fun little error:
I know Microsoft and Tom don't get along :), so I searched Microsoft's job
listings and got these results...
eiffel 0
javascript 32
lisp 2
perl 15
perlscript 0
python 0
shell 12
tcl 0
tk 0
for reference:
C++ 286
java 98
VB 110
-- Dick
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 10 07:56:04 2000
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:45:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Jay Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Business interest in Perl
I downloaded an app called 'Wanted Jobs 98' (from ZDNet, I believe).
This tool searches job databases around the country based on your key
words.
I selected 'California' and used the keyword 'Perl'.
This search tool located 711 jobs in California, where some
aspect of the job application referenced perl.
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 10 07:57:22 2000
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 16:05:36 -0400
From: Adam Turoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Betsy Waliszewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Evaluation of Open Source Jobs
On Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 11:34:57AM -0700, Betsy Waliszewski wrote:
> Check this out:
>
> http://opensourceit.earthweb.com/news/0300salary.html
>
An excerpt:
A snapshot of Dice.com's IT job database on April 15
turned up almost 34,000 listings mentioning Apache,
Linux, Perl, or Sendmail. As in the past, we found
that knowing Perl will get you a job: more than 65%
of the jobs list Perl as a required skill. More than
18% of the jobs involve Linux. [...]
:-)
A similar study involving Java would be interesting.
[time passes]
Search for 'Perl': Jobs 1-25 of 18875 matching your query
Search for 'Java': Jobs 1-25 of 50959 matching your query
Search for '"Visual Basic" VB': Jobs 1-25 of 20187 matching your query
202,786 jobs in their databse.
April 15th's 65% figure works out to ~22,000 Perl jobs back then.
Looks like 3125 Perl programmers have found work in the last 3.5
months. :-)
Z.
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 10 08:00:35 2000
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:43:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Jay Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Perl related jobs
Wanted Jobs 98 is an intelligent search agent that uses your
input (state, job title, and keywords) to query all of the most
popular job databases.
I just pulled 627 jobs in the California area for Computer/
information technology related fields where some aspect of
the job had something to do with perl.
This app runs on Win 95/98... Seems to run on NT too.
It can be downloaded at:
http://hotfiles.zdnet.com/cgi-bin/texis/swlib/hotfiles/info.html?fcode=000QF8&b=
There have been 72,271 downloads for this app.
Its compressed size is 1,193,856 bytes
ZDnet gives it a 5 star rating.
Enjoy,
Jay
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