On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 12:37:05PM -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
> I don't know many hard core language
> textbooks these days...almost all of them are trade.

Excuse me?

Here's a list of *categories* of CS textbooks on just one publisher's site.

There are a few dozen other categories of textbooks (yes, this is a
textbook publisher, and this is their textbook site).  

Are you saying that these aren't hardcore because you don't like
them? That these are trade simply because they're softcover (and
are therefore not textbooks)?  That they're trade because they're
sold at your local neighborhood B&N?  Or are you saying that you're
not a textbook buyer or otherwise not in the market for CS textbooks?

At this point, you're confusing the issue and just generally wasting time.  
I honestly don't know what point you're trying to make.  

I *thought* this was a discussion about why more Java books are outselling 
Perl books.  The sample below shows how many different areas Java
books are being published (and purchased) compared to Perl books, and 
it also illustrates a breadth of content for Java unmatched 
within Perl.[1,2,3]

Z.

PS: Perhaps one or two Scheme books are lurking below.  I can't seem
    to find them.  C++ seems to be the most popular language here.

[1] Some of these, like Data Structures don't seem to make sense in
    the context of Perl for technical reasons.  I have yet to see
    a "Compiler Implementation in Perl" anywhere, and that's 
    probably as quixotic.
[2] Yes, there's Jon/John/Jarkko's Algorithms book, but that doesn't
    seem to be purchased as a college textbook.  
[3] There are many good intro to Perl books, and most of them are
    not published by O'Reilly.  :-)  But is there a 
    "Perl Programming for Engineers"?  There's a Java one...

http://www.aw.com/cs/

  Introduction to Programming (CS1)
      C++--Intro to Programming/CS1
      Java--Intro to Programming/CSI
      C--Intro to Programming/CS1
      Visual BASIC--Programming
      Visual C++ - Programming
      Ada--Intro to Programming/CSI
      Pascal--Programming
      Delphi - Intro to Programming
      Other Introductory Programming Courses
      C--Programming for Engineers
      C++--Programming for Engineers
      C++--Programming for Business
      C++--Programming for Technology
      Computer Science for Engineers
      Java--Programming for Engineers

  Data Structures (CS2)
      C++--Data Structures/CS2
      Java--Data Structures/CS2
      C--Data Structures/CS2
      Ada--Data Structures/CS2
      Pascal--Data Structures/CS2
      Turbo Pascal--Data Structures CS2
      Data Structures

  Algorithms/Advanced Data Structures (CS7)
      C++--Algorithms/Advanced Data Structures
      Java--Algorithms/Advanced Data Structures
      C--Algorithms/Advanced Data Structures
      C++--Algorithms
      Java--Algorithms
      C--Algorithms
      Algorithms
      Other Data Structure Courses      

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