At 12:46 AM 8/11/00 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>It's easy to make messy Perl programs. Large projects have a few good
>developers, but lots of mediocry and lousy coders doing grunt work. Given
>the nature of Perl, messy, a gazillion ways of doing things, a rich and
>complicated syntax, no typechecking, an OO where "common idiom" means
>no data hiding and no encapsulation, over 12k pages of documentation,
>yet it's not completely documented, and no formal specification, Perl
>is, IMO, unsuited for a large project. Perl is like a Arabian horse. The
>winner of the pack, but only in the hands of an excellent rider. But often,
>it's not about finishing the race. It's getting there, safely. And other
>horses might not be as fast, and they look ugly, but they won't bolt.

What he said.  Unfortunately many people see any effort to tame Perl as 
being equivalent to breaking it (useful ambiguity of 'break' there).

Perl is still struggling to find its ecological niche.  You're not going to 
write a device driver in it, or a windowing system, or an air traffic 
control center.  No-one would get in trouble for picking C++ for those, but 
that's okay; Perl doesn't have to be all things to all people.

At some stage, however, we oughtta acknowledge that a language with as many 
features as Perl is too big to be considered only for programs of under 100 
lines.  Something with that much capability oughtta to be a candidate for 
complex tasks.  The prime niche here is enterprise-wide systems: product 
management chains, document management systems, process control, CRM, ERP, 
etc.  These things don't have to bit-twiddle or require pedal-to-the-metal 
optimization, they should be coded at the kind of '30,000 feet view' that 
Perl gives you, and need to interface easily with HTTP, databases, XML, etc.

I know Perl's getting plenty of exercise in that area already, but mainly 
as glue between COTS products that handle the tough stuff.  Perl could 
handle the tough stuff.  It just needs to be made easy to write large 
things in it by large groups of programmers, and possible to ship binary 
compiled products so that people who want to protect their intellectual 
property and prevent the customer from diddling with the code can do 
so.  Please don't respond with the arguments against that; I've heard 'em 
all many times.  They won't change the fact that many people want to do 
those things and the lack of them is a barrier to Perl dominating that 
market.  Fortunately it looks as though Perl 6 will take huge steps in the 
right direction.

--
Peter Scott
Pacific Systems Design Technologies

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