I think RedHat's Interchange may be this 'killer app' your looking for.
http://interchange.redhat.com/cgi-bin/ic/index
It's making an in into the enterprise I work for by solving our e-commerce,
mailing list and sales order entry needs with very little modification.
Zach.
At 09:37 PM 8/13/2001 +0700, you wrote:
>On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Abigail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote,
>
> > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 09:13:24 +0200
> > From: Abigail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Hasanuddin Tamir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: Selena Sol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: perl vs php. just the facts, ma'am.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 09:46:38AM +0700, Hasanuddin Tamir wrote:
> > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Selena Sol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote,
> > >
> > > > > Elaine said:
> > > > > I'm not convinced that a lack of advertising money is the reason
> why Perl
> > > > > isn't as popular as Java or MS products.
> > > >
> > > > I disagree. I would agree with Stas Bekman that the biggest thing
> that can
> > > > be done for Perl advocacy is to find a big company to get behind it.
> > >
> > > If Java has Sun behind, is it in the same sense that C has (again)
> > > Microsoft, Borland, or other compiler vendor behind? If not, what
> > > makes it different between Perl and C in popularity while none of
> > > them really "owns" C?
> >
> >
> > The point isn't that Java has Sun behind it (but not just Sun. Also
> > IBM, Microsoft (even if they'd rather not) and more).
> >
> > The main difference between Java and Perl is what is being produced.
> > The "great" Perl things that are being produced are modules. But modules
> > aren't interesting for the majority of the enterprise world. Modules
> > are just tools to make other tools. The enterprise world wants tools:
> > that is applications.
>
>In that case, isn't Java just another tool? It's not application
>either. I might get you wrong, but it seems to me that you compare
>Java to Perl modules.
>
>I assume you you refer "enterprise" to people in the position making the
>decision. But how do they get to the decision?
>
> > There are no killer Perl *applications*. Just killer modules. Not that
> > there is something wrong with that.
>
>Once a friend asked me, "Why there are so many cool modules in CPAN but
>there's no one real application written in Perl?" With a hard-to-hide
>gasp I said, "Maybe because most of the great applications are developed
>for internal usage." But I knew I wasn't so sure.
>
>Say there was a real killer Perl application, would they (the enterprises)
>turn? And if the application really satistified them I don't really think
>the would care what it's written in.
>
>
>Well, I guess I've too much asked without contributing to the thread :-)
>
>san
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