I once proposed at an aesthetics conference - not entirely jokingly - that
there should be a ten year moratorium on the use of the word 'aesthetic'.  I
now propose extending that to include 'beauty' (and its cognates, and
'ugly') .

I think the general quality of discussion about art would show a marked
improvement in mental focus over the ten year period if people were deprived
of these particular mental crutches.

Derek Allan
http://www.home.netspeed.com.au/derek.allan/default.htm


On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 12:14 AM, William Conger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I think Micheal and I are in basic agreement on all
> points. I like his paragraphs below. This idea even
> holds with evolution.  If ugly is merely that which we
> unconsciously reject because our physiologial makeups
> are threatened by it.  Even metaphors of the ugly
> would evoke a masked physiological response.  But in
> fact, such threats are not inherently ugly, or lacking
> radiance or that permeating essence I'm trying to
> describe, either right now, or when I am at work in my
> studio.
>
> WC
> --- Michael Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Is there beauty "in Nature" (out there, objective,
> > in the world,
> > etc.)? If so, is there also ugly?
> >
> > And if there is ugly in nature, what things are ugly
> > ... in Nature?
> > Creepy crawling things? Slimy things? Dull dun brown
> > stuff? Why would
> > those things (or whatever one might nominate as
> > ugly)--why would those
> > things be ugly?
> >
> > As far as I can discern, there are no ugly colors.
> > Nor are there any
> > ugly beasts, or plants, or landscapes, or textures.
> > Can something be
> > ugly in smell? or sound? or touch? or taste? Is
> > ugly, and
> > concomitantly beauty, only a property of vision?
> >
> > Can there be beauty without ugly? Isn't that like
> > light (luminance),
> > which is only perceived by comparison with dark?
> >
> >
> >
> > Beauty is a property of things perceived by humans,
> > who can judge and
> > evaluate abstractly. And since beauty is considered
> > to be a
> > culmination or perfection of specific qualities or
> > characteristics,
> > there is also ugly, the deficiency of those
> > qualities. But these
> > qualities are socially valued. Remember: there are
> > no ugly things "in
> > Nature."
> >
> > Artworks embody, make concrete in one way or
> > another, these qualities
> > of beauty and thus isolate them, as it were, from
> > the demands of
> > utility, so that beauty, grace, radiance, quiddity
> > even, can be
> > contemplated. That's what Aristotle means by
> > catharsis and vicarious
> > violence.
> >
> > Because artworks *do not need to be denotatively
> > truthful*--because
> > WoA's are fictions, because they do not have to have
> > a utilitarian
> > purpose, because they are free creations--the maker
> > can concentrate on
> > the accidental qualities of appearances, in order to
> > manipulate the
> > degree to which beauty or formal wholeness or
> > another property can
> > exhibit itself.
> >
> > Art moralizes nature. The artist takes the material
> > qualities of
> > things and forms and arranges them in such a way to
> > produce an order
> > to these qualities. Canons and rules and guidelines
> > and other
> > prescriptions are the socializing of the raw,
> > unordered, un-beauty and
> > un-ugly of nature, the making of preferences for and
> > against ways of
> > perceiving these qualities. Art is a social
> > endeavor, and by being
> > social, it subjects its materials (the stuff of
> > Nature) to the mores
> > of the group, of the society. Art moralizes nature,
> > imposing
> > preferences on colors and shapes and forms that, in
> > the wild, occur
> > for other reasons and purposes.
> >
> > And Nature, which precedes art, is indifferent to
> > these moral rules of
> > Art. From time to time, Nature rebuffs art, Nature
> > supersedes art,
> > Nature is superabundantly more than art, defeating
> > the rules of art:
> > There are no binding canons of portrayal in Nature.
> > Ultimately, Nature
> > demoralizes art--i.e., Nature de-moralizes art.
> >
> > Art moralizes Nature.
> > Nature demoralizes Art.
> >
> >
> > | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
> > Michael Brady
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>


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