Michael, list,

Briefly.

In order to understand what an aesthetic experience might be, I am trying to
understand where it is, and when does it occur.

It as been said that aesthetic involves the senses (sensorial receptors);
fine. But if you believe, as I do,  that sensing is non-epistemic, that
sensing is not a conscious mental state, that there is no qualitative
ressemblance, just structural isomorphism, than you have to ask yourself the
question I put forward.

Perceiving is a different process; it comes after sensing, in superior
cortices and nuclei.

It doesn't make much sense to me to say that an aesthetic experience is the
experiencing of the senses.

However, if it is the experiencing of what the senses carry to the brain
(experiencing something related to the senses), then I suggest it occurs
during the process of perceiving.

But then, if that is the case, we might have a problem with the association of
the 2 words: aesthetic + experience, since it is not an aesthetic experience
per se.

We do not perceive all what we are sensing, so there is a deficit. Perceiving
is selecting. How do we select what our senses carry? Just on the basis of the
difference between pain and pleasure? What is the role of memory?

Sensing is an act, it has biological effect on us; no matter what happens with
the process of perceiving it changes us.

After (or should I say during?) the selective process, are we always conscious
of what we perceive? I donbt think so. I believe we spend most of our life
in a non-conscious perceiving state.

And there you go with the debate about non-conscious (unnoticed) aesthetic
experience.

What a mess, right ?

Unless we just say, bwe are experiencing xb.

Based on the above, I have no doubt an experience is always subjective.

Luc


www.lucdelannoy.com

>
> > Where is the aesthetic experience if sensing is
> non-epistemic?
>
> I'm not sure what you mean. Can you explain?

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