William: I can't, and won't, argue with how the process of creating is for you. I haven't read reviews of your work - that is my loss. (I'm doing my best to educate myself.) A little quibble (and that on shaky ground): I haven't read Cheerskep's book but assume from his comments that his author's responses were not intended as recipes for creating but as a notion of what the process is/was like for them.
Geoff C

From: William Conger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Envisioning
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:34:56 -0700 (PDT)

I do paint to express myself! And not! Art is always all-inclusive and all-exclusive. And one addresses oneself in creating work. I won't go into the part on consciousness (as earlier) as a form of assembly of disparate experiental fragments because people on this list don't want to be current with the scientific data and prefer their own old-fashioned errors. Read a book or two.

It's true I don't speak for other artists. But others have spoken for me. Cheerskep likes to discount my comments as all but demented, as if I'm some sort of stumbling old fool in wet pants. In self defense, there's plenty of published commentary on my work by well-recognized people and much unpublished writing available in the Archives of American Art.

You fellows can claim to know what creativity is. I say it's ineffable, or paradoxical, and externalizes the construction of selfness in feeling. Cheerskep says, again, my comments are "incomprehensible". For him, yes, I suoose that's the case.

Art is ultimately incomprehensible. But first there has to be something created. You can't begin with a recipe, as Cheerskep sought from his authors. And that's the point, isn't it? You can't set out to do something that ends as creative, or as art. Non-artists are always trying to find the rainbow of creativity and then follow it to the pot o'gold. Can't be done. Don't ask, like utopian Plato, What is that "divine madness?" Just accept that it's non-reductive.

WC


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