Think Hegel, spirit = consciousness/awareness

On 11/28/08 9:07 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Well done, Mike. To me, it sounds like Whitman thought of "soul" as others
might think of as "sensibility", or perhaps, as "sensitivity" in the
nineteenth-century sense of an ability to react to exquisitely suggestive
elements of
"nature".

Certainly I've known individuals with an extraordinary sensibility that I
usually admired immensely, and which I discerned to be distinct from what
I'll
call the "mere consciousness" which every lout has.


In a message dated 11/28/08 8:48:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


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> From: "William Conger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Proust review: Whitman
>
>
> > We should decide if the issue is about soul or mind.
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> In section 8 to Song of the Open Road Whitman says,
>
> "The efflux of the soul is happiness, here is happiness,
> I think it pervades the open air, waiting at all times,
> Now it flows unto us, we are rightly charged
>
> "Here rises the fluid and attaching character, .....
>
> "....From it falls distill'd the charm that mocks beauty and attainments,
> Toward it heaves the shuddering longing ache of contact.
>
>
> James E. Miller, Jr. says, in the Walt Whitman encyclopedia
> http://www.whitmanarchive.org/criticism/current/encyclopedia/entry_52.html
>
> "As the poem opens, the reader encounters the poet "observing a spear of
> summer grass" and extending an invitation to his soul. He vows to "permit
to
> speak at every hazard, / Nature without check with original energy"
(section
> 1). Leaving "[c]reeds and schools" behind, he goes "to the bank by the wood
> to become undisguised and naked" (sections 1 and 2), clearly preparing
> himself for the soul's visit of section 5, which dramatizes the
> transfiguring event that launches the poet on his lifelong quest.
>
> And I am mindful of the following passage,
>
> I have said that the soul is not more than the body.
>
> And I have said that the body is not more than the soul,
>
> And nothing, not God, is greater to one than one's-self is,
>
>
>
> Leaves of Grass
>
> http://imajesty.net/i_have_said_that_the_soul_is_not.htm
>
> I just received the Lehrer book and haven't been able to start it, but on
> the question of the "soul" in Whitman, I would say that Whitman is speaking
> of something different than the mind or conscious experience.  Rather, IMHO
> he is suggesting an energizing relationship, harmony, or acceptance of
one's
> naturalness.  Whitman was familiar with Emerson and Emerson's cosmology
> swirled around his Oversoul, which I take to be a presence allowing a
person
> to directly experience God as Nature.
>
> To restate my position, Whitman's "soul" is more akin to the idea of a
> person's "true nature", than consciousness or mind in general.
>
> I am unwilling to defend the notion of a "true self" and believe as Richard
> Rorty did, that such absolutist notions are not justifiable.  Nonetheless,
> that is the kind of notion I believe Whitman is working in his poetry.
>
> Mike Mallory
>
> PS:  Of course after I read the chapter, I may find I have missed the point
> entirely.  ;<)
>
>
>




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