I think it's far more fundamental. We create the perceptions we have by imagining - structuring -- the stimuli. We believe in our perceptions through trial and error. But we believe them even as we test them. We have no choice but to believe before we "see". WC
--- On Sat, 11/22/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Proust review: Whitman > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 12:10 PM > -- William Conger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So? What's the point? Actually, I find it easy to > assert that everything we > know, we must first believe. And that has nothing to to > with truth. > WC > > Believe has something to do with truth. How much ? Depends > on our choice of > info that forms the believe. Useful or useless. > Boris Shoshensky > > --- On Thu, 11/20/08, GEOFF CREALOCK > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: GEOFF CREALOCK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: Proust review: Whitman > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 10:01 PM > > William wrote: "if there is a soul that is > co-existent > > with the body or at > > one with it, then we > > need to know the extension of the body, or the > soul." > > I would suggest: If we believe that there is a soul > > co-existent with the > > body or at one with it, then we need to consider what > else > > we believe. > > Geoff C > > > > > > > > > > >From: William Conger > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: [email protected] > > >To: [email protected] > > >Subject: Re: Proust review: Whitman > > >Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:21:01 -0800 (PST) > > > > > >I want to wait until others read the book, or the > first > > chapter. I;m not > > >for skipping chapters because that suggests a > apriori > > judgemnt. > > > > > >Regarding the body/mind, if the mind is embodied, > then > > what are the limits > > >of the body? Skin surface in? Do we include > bodily > > fluids and wastes as > > >part of the body? Do we include speech? Do we > include > > things thrown from > > >the body? Where does the body begin and end? > These may > > seem like > > >ridiculous questions but if there is a soul that > is > > co-existent with the > > >body or at one with it, then we need to know the > > extension of the body, or > > >the soul. > > > > > >WC > > > > > > > > >--- On Thu, 11/20/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Subject: Re: Proust review: Whitman > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], > > [email protected] > > > > Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 6:14 PM > > > > In a message dated 11/20/08 10:37:37 AM, > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is anyone else interested in pursuing a > > discussion of > > > > "Proust Was a > > > > > Neuroscientist"? Shall we postpone > the > > discussion > > > > for a few days? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next one is pretty farfetched-George > > Eliot's > > > > writing prefigures the > > > > brain replacing its own cells all its > life, > > thus > > > > establishing human freedom. > > > > Perhaps we could skip to the chapter on > Proust? > > > > Kate Sullivan > > > > > > > > > > > > ************** > > > > One site has it all. Your email accounts, > your > > > > social networks, and the things you love. > Try the > > new > > > > AOL.com > > > > > > > >today!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?red > i > > > > r=http://www.aol.com/ > > > > > > > ?optin=new-dp%26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001) > > ____________________________________________________________ > Take a break - you deserve it. Click here to find a great > vacation. > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/PnY6rx9beo4Nizgoa8hbeoU4aD89vi > rfMrQgJRXy3lYmwoAPx3GT6/
