Interesting.  I agree that Whitman was essentially a pantheist. I agree than 
this might exclude mind but only by some expert reasoning.

WC


--- On Fri, 11/28/08, Mike Mallory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Mike Mallory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Proust review: Whitman
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 7:48 PM
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Conger"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Proust review: Whitman
> 
> 
> > We should decide if the issue is about soul or mind.
> ________________________________________________________
> 
> In section 8 to Song of the Open Road Whitman says,
> 
> "The efflux of the soul is happiness, here is
> happiness,
> I think it pervades the open air, waiting at all times,
> Now it flows unto us, we are rightly charged
> 
> "Here rises the fluid and attaching character, .....
> 
> "....From it falls distill'd the charm that mocks
> beauty and attainments,
> Toward it heaves the shuddering longing ache of contact.
> 
> 
> James E. Miller, Jr. says, in the Walt Whitman encyclopedia
> 
> http://www.whitmanarchive.org/criticism/current/encyclopedia/entry_52.html
> 
> "As the poem opens, the reader encounters the poet
> "observing a spear of 
> summer grass" and extending an invitation to his soul.
> He vows to "permit to 
> speak at every hazard, / Nature without check with original
> energy" (section 
> 1). Leaving "[c]reeds and schools" behind, he
> goes "to the bank by the wood 
> to become undisguised and naked" (sections 1 and 2),
> clearly preparing 
> himself for the soul's visit of section 5, which
> dramatizes the 
> transfiguring event that launches the poet on his lifelong
> quest.
> 
> And I am mindful of the following passage,
> 
> I have said that the soul is not more than the body.
> 
> And I have said that the body is not more than the soul,
> 
> And nothing, not God, is greater to one than one's-self
> is,
> 
> 
> 
> Leaves of Grass
> 
> http://imajesty.net/i_have_said_that_the_soul_is_not.htm
> 
> I just received the Lehrer book and haven't been able
> to start it, but on 
> the question of the "soul" in Whitman, I would
> say that Whitman is speaking 
> of something different than the mind or conscious
> experience.  Rather, IMHO 
> he is suggesting an energizing relationship, harmony, or
> acceptance of one's 
> naturalness.  Whitman was familiar with Emerson and
> Emerson's cosmology 
> swirled around his Oversoul, which I take to be a presence
> allowing a person 
> to directly experience God as Nature.
> 
> To restate my position, Whitman's "soul" is
> more akin to the idea of a 
> person's "true nature", than consciousness or
> mind in general.
> 
> I am unwilling to defend the notion of a "true
> self" and believe as Richard 
> Rorty did, that such absolutist notions are not
> justifiable.  Nonetheless, 
> that is the kind of notion I believe Whitman is working in
> his poetry.
> 
> Mike Mallory
> 
> PS:  Of course after I read the chapter, I may find I have
> missed the point 
> entirely.  ;<)

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