Is there really space in space?
mando

On Nov 21, 2008, at 11:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 11/20/08 8:21:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



Regarding the body/mind, if the mind is embodied, then what are the limits of the body? Skin surface in? Do we include bodily fluids and wastes as
part
of the body? Do we include speech? Do we include things thrown from the body? Where does the body begin and end? These may seem like ridiculous questions but if there is a soul that is co-existent with the body or at one
with
it, then we need to know the extension of the body, or the soul.

(1) Dualists tend to take a position about consciousness that they are -- or
should be -- a bit uncomfortable with: It exists in time, but has no
extension. I.e. it doesn't exist in "space". This is rather like the position
of those
who believe in mind-independent "abstractions" like "justice", "evil",
"categories", "qualities", "essences", etc. -- those alleged entities are also
accepted as having no extension.

(2) You all many times have heard my mantra that all notion is indeterminate,
indefinite, multiplex, and transitory. Add this: So are all "material"
things. We tend to think that when we "indicate" an object -- like someone's
body,
or even a rock -- we're citing a stable, discrete, unitary object, the contents of which are determinate and distinctly bounded. Linguistically, we
feel
there is a "correspondence" of some kind between the word/name and such an object. William's good questions show that all these assumptions, though
usually
serviceable, are fundamentally unsound.



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